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Special mention: this was headlined on The Liberty Daily today. (https://thelibertydaily.com/)

I believe we lost over 16,000 soldiers in VietNam that year.

1 posted on 05/02/2020 6:39:16 AM PDT by budj
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Every life matters. /s


2 posted on 05/02/2020 6:42:09 AM PDT by nwrep
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Well they had a lot the hippies sequestered out in the country. Me, I was a little busy that year.


3 posted on 05/02/2020 6:43:44 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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Hong Kong Flu killed 100,000 Americans over the course of a full year.

Wuhan Flu has killed 60,000 Americans in six weeks.

Do some math.


4 posted on 05/02/2020 6:44:11 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Rumor has it that Congress will be voting soon to change the ending of our National Anthem to

“... the land of the masked and the home of the socially distanced.”

since the original words didn’t seem to apply any more.

\sarc


5 posted on 05/02/2020 6:44:35 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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Sex, drugs and rock and roll ...


9 posted on 05/02/2020 6:53:32 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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And it created some of the worst sanitary conditions this side of 19th. Century Hell’s Kitchen.


14 posted on 05/02/2020 7:03:36 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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Thanks for sharing a truly great article.

Should be required reading for everyone in the country.


17 posted on 05/02/2020 7:05:38 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: budj
I was 5 years old and have no memory of this at all.

I was in the Army in 69 to 72 and never heard of it either......

And FWIW, I never heard of the Apollo 13 space mission either. Kinda weird looking back on those days, never once did I watch the TV and can't even remember if we had one in the barracks........Since I was in Central America at the time, anything on TV would have been in Spanish anyways......LOL!

19 posted on 05/02/2020 7:06:45 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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One thing to remember- in 1968-69, our society wasn't as litigious. Lawyers weren't allowed to make commercials.

On the other hand, smoking was common and widespread. There's studies that show that nicotine fights coronavirus.

America was better when they allowed smoking commercials, and banned lawyer commercials.

24 posted on 05/02/2020 7:14:37 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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On top of that, they had to deal with the brown acid.


32 posted on 05/02/2020 7:24:37 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Thanks, and for further perspective:

How did America endure (by the grace of God): Major modern influenza pandemics: Basic source is from Wikipedia, but with specific US data added as well as for the 2017-18 flu season, with other words in [brackets] being added, and formatting improved, while reference numbers are removed for clarity (see original for such)

Name

[Main]Date

U.S. population

World pop.

Sub-type

Reproduction rate

Infected W.W. (est.)

U.S. Deaths

[Tot.] Deaths world-wide

U.S.

fatality rate

[World] Case

fatality rate

Pandemic severity

I also added this column: During the 2017-2018 flu season the the % of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza (P&I) was at or above the epidemic threshold for 16 consecutive weeks, and exceeded 10.0% for four consecutive weeks, with older Americans dying at a rate of 169 Americans a day, or seven people per hour.

For this 2019-20 season, the CDC reports (March 28) that deaths due to P&I was 7.4%, which is above the epidemic threshold of 7.3%. The increase is due to an increase in pneumonia deaths rather than influenza deaths and may be associated with COVID-19.

However, the CDC reported that the flu rate is low even though the percentage of pneumonia and influenza is above the epidemic threshold of 7.0% for week 15. And here it listed 52,285 deaths for Week 13 and 49,292 deaths for Week 14 as of 4-18) ) for Influenza Deaths and Pneumonia Deaths combined. And note that some of the latter can be assigned to Covid.

1889–90 flu pandemic [Russian influenza]

1889–90

62,979,766

1.53 billion

Likely H3N8 or H2N2

2.10 (IQR, 1.9–2.4)[33]

20–60% (300–900 million)

[13,000**]

1 million

N/A

0.10–0.28%

2

1918 flu

1918–20

103,208,000

1.80 billion

H1N1

1.80 (IQR, 1.47–2.27)

33% (500 million) or >56% (>1 billion)

[500,000 to 675,000]

20–100 million

N/A

2–3% or ~4%, or ~10% ~10%

5

Asian flu

1957–58

171,984,130

2.90 billion

H2N2

1.65 (IQR, 1.53–1.70)

>17% (>500 million)

[116,000]

1–4 million

N/A

<0.2% [0.6%]

2

Hong Kong flu

1968–69

200,706,052

3.53 billion

H3N2

1.80 (IQR, 1.56–1.85)

>14% (>500 million)

[100,000]

1–4 million

N/A

<0.2%

2

2009 flu pandemic

200910

308,745,538

6.85 billion

H1N1/09

1.46 (IQR, 1.30–1.70)

11-21% (0.7–1.4 billion)

[12,469]

151,700–575,400

[0.02%]

0.03%

1

2017–18 flu season*

2017–2018

325,084,756

7.53 billion

H1N1 / H3N2

1.53

45 million

[61,099 (prior est. 80,000)]

N/A

N/A

N/A

Typical seasonal flu

Every year

7.75 billion

A/H3N2, A/H1N1, B, ...

1.28 (IQR, 1.19–1.37)

5–15% (340 million – 1 billion) 3–11% or 5–20% (240 million–1.6 billion)

[12,000 to 61,000]

290,000–650,000/year

N/A

<0.1%

1

2019–20 seasonal flu

2019–20

330,541,013

7.75 billion

A(H1N1)pdm09, B/Victoria, A(H3N2)

[1.4 to about 5]

11%[t 2] (800 million[t 2])

[Over 24,000 as of March 28]

0.45-1.2 million[t 2])

N/A

ongoing

1

COVID-19

2019–20

330,541,013

7.75 billion



[3,426,413 5-2 11am]

[66,000 approx. as of 5-2]

[240,500 approx. as of 5-2 11am]

N/A



[Notes * P+I deaths at or above epidemic threshold for 16 consecutive weeks. **as should be assumed in other cases, death rates include those due to complications accompanying the flu.

We have the CDC morality rates for the flu per state for 2017-18 (13 states above 17 per 100,000 total population) and for Covid here (only 8 states above 17 per 100,000 people, as of April 24). And according to estimates, between 61,000 to 80,000 Americans died during the 2017-2018 season, the latter being the highest death toll in 40 years. During that 2017-2018 season, the percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza (P&I) was at or above the epidemic threshold for 16 consecutive weeks. Nationally, mortality attributed to P&I exceeded 10.0% for four consecutive weeks, peaking at 10.8% during the week ending January 20, 2018, (https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/season/flu-season-2017-2018.htm) with older Americans dying at a rate of 169 Americans a day, or seven people per hour. (https://www.aarp.org/health/conditions-treatments/info-2018/older-flu-deaths-rising.html

It is estimated that about 80% of those infected with Covid-19 experience a mild case [WHO said the like] – about as serious as a regular cold – and recover without needing any special treatment. Meanwhile a study in Iceland reports that as of April 11, the country has “tested 10% of its population for coronavirus - a figure far higher than anywhere else in the world -” and that “about half of its citizenry at any given time who have coronavirus but don't know it, will be asymptomatic” (show no symptoms), which is “a large percentage many experts studying the virus have suspected, but have had little firm data to corroborate.”

Another report is that those who are most vulnerable to death from Covid-19 are the aged with certain other heath conditions, thus 80 percent of US coronavirus deaths are people 65 and older. Then again, America murders over 2,000 of the most vulnerable souls a day (2017: https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/induced-abortion-united-states), while (for perspective) about 90 people die each day in the US from crashes, which are among the over 7,000 Americans who die every day in the US from a wide range of causes. (https://www.weisspaarz.com/leading-causes-death-by-state/)

Other infectious diseases include: Severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS, and the mortality rate for SARS, that killed nearly 800 people, is estimated at 1 % by the C C, and with a R rating of 5.

MERS, which stands for Middle East re respiratory syn drone, had a mortality rate of 5% and a R rating of 2].

Measles: Mortality rate: unclear; R rating: 12 to 18

Ebola Mortality rate: exceeds 50% R rating: about 2

Source: .cnbc.com]


Supplemental: Mortality rates (death rate per year, 2002 worldwide[4]) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_causes_of_death_by_rate)

41 posted on 05/02/2020 7:57:48 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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I survived Woodstock but I was 100 miles away from those stinking NY City hippies. I didn't hear about it until weeks after (or I may have gone cruising for chicks).
45 posted on 05/02/2020 8:10:43 AM PDT by McGruff (Biden's still Hidin)
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Vietnam has become the talking point in regards to our losses there and the Chinaflu.


51 posted on 05/02/2020 8:35:45 AM PDT by ealgeone
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We are seeing the consequences of the “chickification” of the American population.

We live in fear instead of fighting.


55 posted on 05/02/2020 11:05:58 AM PDT by motor_racer (If you don't read the news, you are uninformed. If you read the news, you are misinformed.)
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The liberals’ answer to this information about 1968-69 will be “So, you want 100,000 to die this time, because you are a racist-sexist-homophobe-bigot-fascist-capitalist-Trump lover?”


56 posted on 05/02/2020 11:41:04 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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