Posted on 06/07/2020 10:51:38 PM PDT by Jonty30
I'm a security guard. My experience is that 90%+ people will comply to my request to move on if I confront them. I never have to do much beyond taking to people to achieve compliance. I'm not allowed to touch anybody. If, however, I've done everything I can, I have the option of calling the police. It is just unnecessary 90%+ of the time.
So, I'm thinking that, because does not have the option of backing down or avoiding the physicality of an encounter, that for minor problems whether cops should be called at all, exceptions being reasonable concern about violence or absolute disregard to moving on.
What are you doing that a citizen couldn’t do?
Don’t see the advantage.
How many citizens are going to step out to suggest somebody move along?
Security guards are usually employed in largely civilized environments, where the miscreant is the rare exception. Put Paul Blart in East LA, Bedford-Stuyvesant or Englewood, and I’m not so sure that’s going to work out too well.
Sure...just form a neighborhood militia...
Then you could patrol the streets and “protect” the citizens and businesses.
Of course..you’ll need to get paid somehow..so those citizens and businesses will need to pay a “tribute”
It’s not much...just a couple hundred a week.....
And if they don’t pay?? Well, nice house/business you got here...shame if something happened to it during the next riot.
Seen the movie many times.
Fair point.
I expect your situation is the same as that of many cops who are called to a crime scene. For instance, Chauvin, the guy being railroaded by the powers-that-be, has been involved in two shootings in his 19-year career, only one of which involved a death.
In the second, George Floyd’s, the death was inadvertent - the result of a drug problem coupled with a viral disease and pre-existing cardiovascular conditions possibly related to routine drug use. Just how bad can drugs screw up your cardiovascular system? This bad:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Len_Bias#NBA_draft,_drug_overdose,_and_death
Only if they had the same powers/authority as the cops do now...Or did.
The problem is the people that want to cause these kinds of problems are not your normal law abiding citizen.
And I think you know that.
> for minor problems whether cops should be called at all <
I can’t remember what city it was, but about a month ago I was reading about a city that was looking into what you said there.
For something serious, they would send a cop. But for something minor (like, say, a noise complaint) they would send another kind of responder- an unarmed city representative.
And it’s important that the responder be unarmed. Because otherwise you start running into use-of-force problems, just like we have now.
There’s a chance that might work in sleepy little towns. Help grandma get her cat out of a tree, that sort of thing. But anyplace else, I’d have to say no. Too many of those responders would be easy targets for angry folks, drunk folks, crazy folks, etc.
I think, even in larger areas, that are not gang zones, it would have a positive effect. The whole is about reducing the police presence without losing safety.
Smh....they will eat you for lunch.
The ONLY thing thats gets you respect in the HWW (hood while white) is being 100% straight up...and taking zero shit from anyone....and of course...being strapped.
And just how did the looters and the rioters react when you politely asked them to move along these past two weeks?
They could also use my special amulet that wards off Bengal Tigers! But there aren't any Bengal Tigers on the loose within 5,000 miles of here, you say! That just goes to show how well my amulet works!
Put Paul Blart in East LA, Bedford-Stuyvesant or Englewood, and I’m not so sure that’s going to work out too well.
Had to laugh at that one!
Regards,
Uhm....you live in Canada??
Butt out...you have zero knowledge of American urban culture.
Seriously?
Who is this guy?
He’s a Canadian Blart....zero clue of American Urban culture.
If you weren’t backstopped by cops no one would listen to a word ;you said.
Ask George Zimmerman how it worked out for him when he asked Trayvon Martin to move along.
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