Posted on 07/03/2020 7:17:51 AM PDT by Stravinsky
Twitter users are debating whether or not Beethoven was black after a blog post about the subject resurfaced online.
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In the post on The Concordian, the author said: "I am no Beethoven expert, but bringing up this topic is important. While getting to the bottom of the truth about Beethoven's race will change nothing about the supreme quality of his music, it will open up dialogue about the massive effects of European colonialism that promote racism still today.
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However, there is no evidence of Beethoven's race aside from portraits that suggest that he was white, and the blog post merely offers up speculation. The conspiracy theory that Beethoven was black "is not based on genealogical studies of Beethoven's past," according to the Beethoven Center at San Jose State University, but rather "is based on the assumption that one of Beethoven's ancestors had a child out of wedlock."
The Beethoven Center adds: "It is important to note that no one called Beethoven black or a moor during his lifetime, and the Viennese were keenly aware both of Moors and of mulattos, such as George Bridgetower, the famous violinist who collaborated with Beethoven."
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Despite this, many Twitter users began sharing The Concordian story on Thursday.
One Twitter user said: "White historians continue to prove how gross they are, they literally tried to paint one of the best-known musicians as a caucasian and made us believe for years that he was white when Beethoven was black... White people tryna whitewash history again."
A Twitter user shared a TikTok imagining what listening to new music in the 1800s would have been like and said: "This is funnier now that we know that Beethoven is black."
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I call cultural appropriation!
Hmmm, I thought every important historical person was a person of color....silly me...
Tear down his statues just in case he wasn’t.
However, there is no evidence but it was stated on twitter must be true for the herd animals.
The press used reports of Twitter bot protests to force Rush Limbaugh’s major sponsors to end support.
Oh for god’s sake. :rolleyes:
Worse is the media who will use a tweet from a nobody, then write an article titled "Some say...". It's a cheap way for the MSM to editorialize against Pres. Trump with the veneer of a "news" story.
More virtue signaling by the truly ignorant, if not the terminally stupid
WHO CARES
They are just trolling. Ridiculous to even take it seriously.
Was Beethoven black? Of course he was. And Mozart was a Cherokee. But wait. Brahms was actually a woman!
You can read all about this - and more - in my latest book, “Made-up Stuff About Composers”. It should be available on Amazon shortly.
His skull is on display at the Beethoven Museum in Bonn, Germany. I saw it. From two feet away. He was not black. Though he did have really bad front teeth. One of his upper central incisors grew in at a very odd angle. Almost 45 degrees.
I assume that is why he didn’t smile much.
Trump’s tweets are different because he’s the President of the United States and he uses Twitter to communicate with the American people, but that doesn’t make everything on Twitter meaningful, so I agree. “Discussions” involving Twitter idiots are not real news no matter how much the MSM pretends, which is why I didn’t put it under news. It’s just another silly leftist thing for people here to laugh at and tear apart.
They will resort to lies and innuendo to destroy everything white.
But even fools know that no man of African heritage ever attained musical genius like Beethoven. That’s why they redefine genius to include jungle music.
The stupid people need that equivalency.
The leftist revisionists are totally uninterested in facts, just what makes some people “feel good.” They are getting more ridiculous with it though; it was bad enough when they tried to claim that ethnically Greek, Egyptian queen Cleopatra was black against the historical evidence. Now they’ve moved on to claiming an ethnic German, because you know, no real white person has ever had dark, bushy hair.
It reeks of desperation and is a result of the (very outdated) one-drop rule, where they imaginatively try to find signs that someone important was actually 1/8 black and “only” 7/8 white (or something like that) to then declare that person “black.” It doesn’t matter to them what their actual heritage was, what their self-identity was, or how other people around them perceived them.
On the plus side though, maybe this rumor will stop the radical terrorists from attacking statues of Beethoven like they did to the great European writer Miguel de Cervantes in San Francisco.
This is the PINNACLE of musical achievement.
Beyond dispute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDXWK3W477w
No, but Aleksandr Pushkin, Russia’s greatest poet, was.
It's cultural theft. Leftist Bernal tried this 25 years ago with "Black Athena". Socrates was a black, don't you know.
Classicist Mary Leftkowitz addressed this in her book "Not Out of Africa." It won't be long before the cultural Marxists and revisionists claim America's founding philosophy as their own, "stolen by whitey."
Be advised.
Absolutely. Or not.
Pleased to see them use the words “moor” and “mulatto”. Hope nobody sets them on fire because of it.
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