Posted on 08/24/2020 4:06:06 PM PDT by ammodotcom
Public schools are so ubiquitous and ingrained in American culture that one could easily be forgiven for thinking that we, as a nation, have always had them. However, public schools are a relatively recent invention. Federal funding for public schools is a recent anomaly, dating back to the days of President Jimmy Carter. His successor, President Ronald Reagan, famously tried to dismantle the Department of Education to no avail.
Public schools being an arm of the state are indoctrination centers. This becomes increasingly true as basic skills such as the old “three Rs” of “reading, writing and ‘rithmatic” are jettisoned in favor of climate change, critical race theory and gender ideology – all of which are now part and parcel of a public education in the United States. As if this weren’t troubling enough, public schools are largely funded by property taxes on housing. These taxes, which are paid generally on a bi-annual basis, are confiscated from people whose children do not even attend public schools. What’s more, these taxes require people to effectively pay rent on owned property under penalty of losing their homes.
We do not have to look far for an alternative to the world of public schools. Throughout most of American history, education has been the purview of parents, the church, and other private institutions. The rise of public education in the United States is a story of violence and coercion that is largely hidden from the public record. After reading this, you will never view public schools in the same light ever again.
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The only R taught in publik skoolz is “rioting”.
There is a reason why teacher’s unions fight tooth and nail against school choice.
Even socialist Sweden has school choice.
For all their faults (and there are many), public schools do one thing well. They are a melting pot. I grew up in a neighborhood where almost everyone was a child or grandchild of Eastern European immigrants. There were no black or Italian or Irish kids in my neighborhood.
But I had many black and Italian and Irish friends. Because I went to a public school.
Is that alone enough to give public education a pass? No. But it’s not something that should be ignored either.
If education is privatized you will lose much of that. You’ll end up with Muslims going to Muslim private schools, liberal kids going to liberal private schools, etc.
Not melting pots. Balkanization.
There is such a thing as government promoting education as a value, of course - but “government education” all too readily becomes indoctrination for the benefit of politicians who go along and get along with the education establishment.
For anyone who falls for the socialist con that “socity” is just another word for “government,” the challenge they should undertake is to rebut the first two paragraphs of Common Sense:
SOME writers have so confounded society with government, as to leave little or no distinction between them; whereas they are not only different, but have different origins.Society is produced by our wants, and government by our wickedness;Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one . . .the former promotes our happiness POSITIVELY by uniting our affections, the latter NEGATIVELY by restraining our vices.
The one encourages intercourse, the other creates distinctions.
The first is a patron, the last a punisher.
For were the impulses of conscience clear, uniform and irresistibly obeyed, man would need no other lawgiver; but that not being the case, he finds it necessary to surrender up a part of his property to furnish means for the protection of the rest . . . — Thomas Paine,Common Sense (1776)
If education was privatized with vouchers, you would get diversity as parents would seek out the best schools for their kids.
I know a first grade teacher whose class was all brown.
Two other first grades in her school were black.
The school did this on purpose.
The problem wasn’t the kids, it was their parents.
Private school was a big deal in New England for a long time. The Connecticut school I attended from 6th grade on up was founded in 1794.
It ain’t like your day. It has balkenized already. You went to school with people who shared western civ with you. A generation previous catholic schools were formed so that the cultural identity of Southern Europeans would not be wiped out
Leaning, I appreciate the point you made. It IS important to socialize outside of our “comfort zone” but unless and until we are of one mind where equality is concerned, I feel that grouping together as if we are solving race issues is a farce. We can’t pretend we’re “in this together without acknowledging that we are all equal. Private schools, especially parochial/christian schools enforce the principles of equality as a God given right. I can’t bring myself to “buy the world a coke” if others wish death for me and my white children.
What state?
California, LA area, near the projects
I taught Latin and European History for 23 years in private schools. And I was an award winning teacher . . . who, thank God, managed in all that time to avoid becoming “certified” by the State.
Your first line evokes the words of Plato.
Mooslimes already go to private schools, they call them madrassas. And if they don’t go to the madrassas they get what they don’t get taught at home, for example the memorization of the Qurap.
People conflate charter schools with private schools which is completely wrong. A lot of Charter School Organizations run your public indoctrination centers or public schools, especially in the inner city school districts, where it is 85 to 90 percent black and foreign immigrants (mostly illegal and those who can’t speak english that are somewhat legal) anyways.
Most of what you claim has already happened and its called de-segregation. Most of the race-baiters are calling for it. But so are the families that have to wake their children up 3 hours before they catch a 2 hour bus ride across the city because of the very thing you espouse.
This isn’t a race thing its a location thing. And such you will find out that inner city schools usually have the money as does the richer parts of towns have but in the inner cities that money goes to administration as the greed lies there. I know several teachers who went to administration because it was better pay for them by almost twice as much.
The fact that average salaries for teachers take almost 10 to 12 years to make gives a false impression of how much a teacher actually makes per year. Another indication of lies that teachers leave is the contracts that arenegotiated by Unions and that the Unions have the teachers back. The Administration is not bound by Unions and when Admin investigate an incident between the teacher an student, the Admin will try to get the teacher alone without a Union Rep. And teachers that become Union Reps make money for that title and do not reveal it to new teachers. So both Admin and Unions play off of one another. There would be great teachers who have worked in the field and have retired but Unions and Admins have a particular bias against those who have degrees in something other than education. Other teachers who have the degree and have never worked in the field they teach in at HS also have this bias.
Lastly, computer skills are not really taught in schools. They hand kids a tablet and then proceed to tell them to go with it. Most teachers still refuse to acquiesce to computers and the remote schooling currently is a result of this. Schools can be blended, but if schools only do computer based teaching then it is bad. This is because higher academia has said that CBT degrees are weaker. And therefore all CBT teaching is weaker than in-person learning. Don’t get me wrong there are benefits to in-person instruction but to say that brick-and-mortar schools are better than CBT schools is wrong. Parents need to get involved no matter what the teacher says they can’t be doing. If a teacher said I could not be listening to my kids instruction, then I would want to listen to see if something fishy was being taught.
People claiming CBT schooling is bad for children are idjits and are hands off their child’s learning.
My ***private*** parochial school had students of every ethnic background. Blacks, too, in my **private** parochial high school.
Re: Muslims
This is an immigration problem, not a schooling problem.
. . . and that’s not entirely by accident.Not that I, an engineering major, was well versed in the classics . . .
I went to ethnically homogenous public schools and I don’t feel I was deprived of anything. I learned how to read and write and barely do math. I then went to college in a big city with a really diverse student body and had zero problems adjusting.
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