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Why cant mail-in voters check online to confirm that their vote was counted?
self ^ | 09/5/2020 | Self

Posted on 09/05/2020 12:40:43 AM PDT by know.your.why

I can confirm that I'm registered to vote so why cant I confirm that my mail-in vote was counted?


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Just asking. I googled the same question and got no joy.
1 posted on 09/05/2020 12:40:43 AM PDT by know.your.why
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To: know.your.why

Can confirm by trying to vote in person.


2 posted on 09/05/2020 12:46:55 AM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: know.your.why

What state?? We can in Arizona, I check every year.
search “verify my vote counted in Arizona”


3 posted on 09/05/2020 12:49:02 AM PDT by AzNASCARfan
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To: know.your.why

The Republican Party in North Carolina just announced on Fox News (Mike Emmanual) that checking online to see if your vote was recorded is possible.

The Democrat counterpart also said the voting process was safe and secure in North Carolina, but her head was shaking side to side saying NO at the same time she said it!


4 posted on 09/05/2020 12:57:53 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: know.your.why

of course you’re not allowed to check anything... whether it was received and what that vote actually wss

there’s only one solution

a public blockchain based, biometric key accessed, voting system... printed receipts would be optional

this would allow only a single ballot issued to the blockchain for every registered voter in that district.

when a user requests their ballot, their biometric key (retainal pattern/ facial recognition data) would be sample and used to locate their ballot. once found, the ballot would be displayed available to be filled in. submitting the ballot would be placing a new link in the block chain, signed with the persons biokey

this voting scheme could be deployed anywhere in the world and only for living people.

ballots could only be cast in the assigned home district.

updates to the vote would be possible but only those updates prior to the cut-off would count towards the total.

real-time view of the status of an election would be possible.

verification of your vote would also be possible.

dead people could not vote.
multiple ballots would not be possible.
multi-state voting would not be possible.
multi-precinct voting would not be possible.
impersonation voting would not be possible.
vote changing would not be possible.


5 posted on 09/05/2020 1:11:00 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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counted doesn’t mean counted accurately. as we know from NY Post Dem fraudster column, envelopes are opened and manipulated ballot replace the sent-in ballot. tha latter is counted then. it’s pretty clear the best way to go on record is in person. the new system in Cali reads and enters your choices before you leave the voting terminal


6 posted on 09/05/2020 1:31:32 AM PDT by avital2
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Most lazy people assume ‘the system’ works...until they invariably find out it does not.

NOV2020 is do or die for this country, but yeah, let’s rely on the system working.........


7 posted on 09/05/2020 1:38:44 AM PDT by cranked
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Some states don’t start processing the mailed in ballots until Election Day. And some won’t start counting until Election Day even if verified earlier. So Trump’s idea of ‘verifying’ your mail in vote counted by trying to vote at the polls won’t work everywhere.

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/vopp-table-16-when-absentee-mail-ballot-processing-and-counting-can-begin.aspx


8 posted on 09/05/2020 2:54:12 AM PDT by Spirit of Liberty (It's morning in America again!)
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Absolutely correct! Even if you could see if a ballot in you name was received, there is NO way to verify that it was the ballot YOU sent.

The only sure way you can be certain YOUR vote is received is in-person voting. (But even that doesn’t guarantee it isn’t manipulated on the back-end.)


9 posted on 09/05/2020 3:35:51 AM PDT by Be Free (When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.)
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To: know.your.why

You could in the “FR HQ” county (Fresno Co., CA)...was true for absentee mail in ballots in the past and now that CA is mandating mail out ballots for everyone they have established a statewide “Check your ballot” service:

https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/ballot-status/wheres-my-ballot/

Won’t affect the potential fraud of having millions of ballots floating around for “people” who have moved, etc.., but it will allow you to track the ballot (serial #) assigned to your name. Signatures are only checked if the ballot is “disputed” so ballot harvesting of “extra” mailed ballots should prove to be fruitful. :-(


10 posted on 09/05/2020 3:47:37 AM PDT by Drago
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To: Be Free

With the new optical machines, if you scan your vote, you will count OK. Mail vote can be manipulated many ways and no vote can still vote! The system has very little safeguard against crooked counters. The main build in safeguard is the integrity of the counters and that both parties have representatives on every station (should have!). Please, volunteer for poll work!
But then with ballot harvesting even these safeguards can go to hell.


11 posted on 09/05/2020 3:55:23 AM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: know.your.why

Because they don’t intend to make any of this accountable.


12 posted on 09/05/2020 3:59:31 AM PDT by thoughtomator (here comes the switch to Hillary)
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Because they don’t intend to make any of this accountable.

"They" can 'intend' all they like. This kind of internet check that ALL sides can verify is a no-brainer solution as far as i can see. If Trump says to do it, no one could argue against it -right? If they did argue it would essentially be admitting intent to commit voter fraud. But...uh-oh...somebodies going to say 'why not just vote by internet'. Hmmm... I still like the idea that I can verify MYSELF to see if my vote was counted.
13 posted on 09/05/2020 4:31:47 AM PDT by know.your.why (If you dont watch the MSM you are uninformed. If you do watch the MSM you are misinformed.)
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Because then we could confirm all of the manufactured votes by democrats as voter fraud.

JoMa


14 posted on 09/05/2020 4:41:53 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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But what argument could the dems possibly use against it? They will never say “Because then we could confirm all of the manufactured votes by democrats as voter fraud.” Right? They would have to have a plausible defense. Admitting criminal intent doesnt exactly work here.


15 posted on 09/05/2020 4:45:47 AM PDT by know.your.why (If you dont watch the MSM you are uninformed. If you do watch the MSM you are misinformed.)
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To: know.your.why

You can in Arizona.


16 posted on 09/05/2020 4:59:59 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (I trust President Trump.)
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Other Freepers are commenting on the mechanics of voting. I’d ask your consider the privacy of your vote.

The secret ballot is a fundamental principal of elections in the West. In person or absentee, how you voted is supposed to be known only to you so that you can, in theory, vote without fear of being intimidated into voting a certain way or of retribution afterward if you vote “wrong.” You mark your blank ballot in private and feed it into the recording machine yourself. There is nothing on the ballot that can be traced back to you. Ditto for the voting machines with the lever operated curtains. When you voted by throwing the lever and opening the closed curtains, all the selection switch settings were cleared. I haven’t voted absentee since I was in the service, but I seem to recall that the only place for identifying information and signatures was on the envelope the ballot was returned in. The ballot inside, once accepted as validly cast by the election officials, was extracted and had no markings on it to tie it back to a specific voter.

I write all this because there is an important distinction to be made in knowing if your mail-in ballot was received by the election board and knowing if your votes were tallied for the specific candidates you voted for. Being able to check on line if your ballot was received still preserves the secret nature of your ballot. Being able to check on line to ensure your votes were recorded negates the secrecy of your ballot because your specific votes can now be traced back directly to you. Worse yet, they are in a database that is accessible on-line.

How do you ensure your votes get counted? By insisting that the county Election Commission be led and staffed by very dedicated, scrupulously honest persons, be properly funded, equipped, and monitored by the competing political parties. There also must be constant scrutiny of election board performance and demands for accountably and prosecution when necessry.

Of course, since this is the organization where political power is actually awarded or lost, it is the perpetual target of a lot of corruption. I’m sure you’ve heard the stories about ballot boxes ending up at the bottom of Lake Michigan or the miracle reversals of elections when boxes of ballots suddenly show up - usually from inner city precincts - and completely change the vote count.

In closing, I’ll note that extremely high voter turn out (99+%) was/is a hallmark of communist nations. Voting is mandatory and to ensure accountability, every voter receives a serialized ballot and that serial number is recorded next to the voter’s name on the rolls. Needless to say, with that kind of traceability, voting produces very high levels of regime support (90+%). Those who vote “incorrectly” are easily identified so that they can be reeducated.


17 posted on 09/05/2020 5:03:18 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (When the enemy is making a major strategic blunder, DO NOT interrupt him.)
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They could definitely confirm if they received your ballot since they can confirm receipt of any package from Amazon. In order to confirm that they have counted your ballot, though, would require some sort of code on the ballot that could be linked to you, personally, which would destroy utterly any semblance of a secret ballot.

It’s much easier to just go to your polling place and vote.


18 posted on 09/05/2020 5:04:09 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (20/20 might be the year the moral bankruptcy of the Uniparty finally comes into clear focus.)
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To: Helicondelta
The President is right. That's the ONLY way you can confirm it.

What they can't confirm is if you voted twice (somehow) via an insider. You need a time stamped sequential numbered printout after you vote.

Absentee ballots are NOT secret ballots. Or are they??

19 posted on 09/05/2020 5:09:18 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Everyone who mails their vote in plays into the hands of the Democrats.


20 posted on 09/05/2020 5:10:04 AM PDT by Varda
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