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1 posted on 11/13/2020 10:24:54 AM PST by Jonty30
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Vanities. Vanities drove him mad.


2 posted on 11/13/2020 10:28:43 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (MAGA!!!)
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Who can say what is in another’s heart?

Often we can’t tell the reasons for our own feelings or preferences.


3 posted on 11/13/2020 10:28:58 AM PST by BeauBo
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I'm just asking here if anybody knows what caused Karl Marx to turn away from God.

Marx knew that a God Believing people would never accept communism, because it is against human nature.

A belief in God, acknowledges that there is something out side of humans that is a Superior Being, and then communism would never be accepted.

Oil and water.

5 posted on 11/13/2020 10:32:58 AM PST by USS Alaska (NUKE ALL MOOSELIMB TERRORISTS, NOW.)
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The state has to be the highest power.


6 posted on 11/13/2020 10:33:33 AM PST by joshua c (President Elect joshua_c. Hey if Joe can do it.)
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I would speculate that like most of the evil people of the world, he had issues with his father.


7 posted on 11/13/2020 10:33:51 AM PST by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, Libs, Progs, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies, DemoKKKrats: It's a Godlessness disorder.)
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I believe that Marx wanted to establish the government as god whose decrees cannot be challenged. In such a scheme, you cannot recognize another god, even the true Lord of the All.

This would also explain why individual rights are not important. You have no standing to defy the decrees of the state because it is god. In his scheme, everything has to bow to the state-god. Rivals are not tolerated.

8 posted on 11/13/2020 10:34:21 AM PST by CommerceComet (Joe Biden: Showing his leadership by cowering in the basement like a scared child.)
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I'll offer you this quote from William Skousen's The Naked Communist - excellent book by the way:
As to the allegation of the Communist that religion makes men passive, we have only to observe that the dynamic power of religious convictions is precisely what prevents a soundly religious person from accepting Communist oppression and Communist mandates. A person practicing the teachings of the Judaic-Christian philosophy will not lie or steal on command. He will not shed innocent blood. He will not participate in the diabolical Communist practice of genocide - the systematic extermination of entire nations or classes. It is clearly evident from the numerous Communist writings that what they fear in religion is not that it makes religious people passive to the dominant class but that it prevents them from becoming passive to Communist discipline. Deep spiritual convictions stand like a wall of resistance to challenge the teachings and practices of Communism. Furthermore, the Communist sees in the dynamic ideology of Judaic-Christian teachings a force for peace which cuts through the vitals of Communism's campaign for world-wide revolution.

10 posted on 11/13/2020 10:36:52 AM PST by shaven_llama
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The influence of Feuerbach on Marx shaped his views on many things. The father of lies won the debate.

I would suggest starting here.... there are a few books on Marx that also hit the mark, but most of them recognize the importance of Feuerbach and how that shaped his thinking about your question.

https://www.crisismagazine.com/1989/why-marx-hated-christianity-a-reply-to-leonardo-boff

Marx was focused on materialism and came to believe that religion was simply another ideology used by the oppressed to justify their oppression. It has been a few years since I read on this, but that is what I took away from it.

All of us have people in our lives who greatly impact and shape our worldview and philosophy. Had Marx been persuaded by Bastiat the world might be a much different place.

You can read about Ludwig Feuerbach here on wiki and it’s a pretty fair page I think. I had not looked at him in a long time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_Feuerbach


11 posted on 11/13/2020 10:37:00 AM PST by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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I never heard he was a Satanist.


12 posted on 11/13/2020 10:37:55 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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Marx was a loser/moocher who lived only on the handouts of others. Why his cracked philosophy has become so widespread is a testament to the basic stupidity of too many human beings.

Marx appeals to looter/moocher mentalities. People who want to live well without having to work. Which is the basic definition of a criminal.


13 posted on 11/13/2020 10:43:10 AM PST by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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He hates because he chooses the deadliest sin of pride, and refuses to serve God. Just as satan said “I will not serve!” Nor does Marxism.


14 posted on 11/13/2020 10:43:16 AM PST by Allthesaints
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Where did you hear that he was an “avowed Satanist”?


15 posted on 11/13/2020 10:47:04 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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I would say he hates God because his belief in communism relieved him of self determinism.

-He didn’t believe in free will. In his view we are all just consequences of our situation around us and thus not responsible for what and who we are from the communist perspective.

That way there is no good and evil, no God and Satan, no blame for the hell we create in our lives as to the choices we make because they are determined for us by our environment.

And the ends justify the means....


17 posted on 11/13/2020 10:52:26 AM PST by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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When you try to read someone else’s mind you are open for trouble. If you knew him and talked with him he might not tell the truth so how can you tell now what he thought then.
18 posted on 11/13/2020 10:53:48 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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Marx’ father was a Rabbi. Was his father a Kabbalist? I don’t know. But if so, it might have something to do with those who claim his son was a satanist.

On the other hand, I have heard that his father was against the satanic direction he was headed down.


20 posted on 11/13/2020 11:02:02 AM PST by sasportas
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Sigmund said it was because he had a small we we.

5.56mm


23 posted on 11/13/2020 11:16:24 AM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! Finish THE WALL!)
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Because he was a Democrat and ONLY the State has Authority over Human Beings.


24 posted on 11/13/2020 11:16:44 AM PST by eyeamok
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This topic is covered in an informative (if not tightly written) little book entitled "Karl Marx, True or False Prophet?" by Deirdre Manifold (likely out of print but can be gotten from ABEbooks.com) Sample below:


25 posted on 11/13/2020 11:16:57 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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Marx coined himself a scientist (social scientist) and proclaimed religion as a falsehood that blinded religious men from the truth of science. To him, religion gave power to religious leaders, who in turn colluded with the bourgeoisie and legitimized the plight of the proletariat. Marx was not a Satanist, as that would imply at least a faith in Satan; he was an atheist who rejected all forms of religion and proselytized the virtues of living in the world and working hard before endless death. He said (paraphrasing here) that a belief in the afterlife only lead people to produce less in society rather than look at the endless death of atheism and use that as an incentive to produce at one's capacity. In effect, leave a lasting mark via your labors on future generations since you won't enjoy anything after you die.

Many modern "liberals" live by this very idea and expect the rest of us to blindly adopt it.

26 posted on 11/13/2020 11:19:21 AM PST by Intar
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28 posted on 11/13/2020 11:21:32 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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