Posted on 04/09/2021 10:34:51 AM PDT by Shadylake
Boeing Co. stock traded lower Friday after the aerospace and defense company late Thursday flagged a new problem with 737 Max jets, with at least one Wall Street analyst saying that a fix would be easy and cause “minimal disruption” for Boeing customers.
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But maybe not with United Airlines pilots (diversity trumps competence).
My easy fix is not to fly on them.
That's United Airlines
yup
Just jump that screw in fuse with a penny.
If you get a long box with a king cab there are "structural changes" compared to other pickups... I live on an airport with people who both work for Boeing and fly for major airlines. This 737 MAX thing was a major screw up, but not in the way most people think. One of my neighbors gave me a complete run down of the changes made to the control system that caused the confusion that resulted in 3rd world pilots auguring them in on a couple of occasions and Boeing losing billions because of their appalling Public Relations. I would have no issues flying on a MAX these days.
“Fast forward 2025:
Actual cause of crash—pilots having gay sex in the cockpit....”
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Maybe, maybe not. Last words heard on the recovered CVR was the co-pilot’s voice saying “You dissin’ me? YOU DISSIN’ ME?!”.
L 1011 was very a very safe aircraft.
I think that is United Airlines. Is AA doing it, too?
You are right. Refer to post #18 and especially to the pdf document link at the bottom of the article. Basically the engines had to be re positioned to avoid make expensive changes to the fuselage which made the airplane potentially unstable. To counteract the instability they installed software called MCAS which brought with it its own set of problems. The updated design should not even have been called a 737. Boeing did so anyway to save airlines expensive retraining for their pilots.
That may not be possible as airlines begin plans to hire pilots based on diversity characteristics rather than flight experience...
"American pilots" may soon be, predominantly, illegal non-English-speaking Somalian trans dykes...
When they shout "allahu akbar" and announce that it is time to "board" passengers, start running for the street exits...
You're right, it was United.
Engineering is fail safe fail safe.......................
If it’s Boeing, it ain’t going.
Delta Flight 191, Delta Flight 1080, Eastern 401, Eastern 855, TWA 843, Saudia 162 and Saudia 163.
Let's not count Air Lanka 512.
And the design did contribute to a happy outcome on Eastern 935. A slightly different design and the result would have been similar to United 232 crash of a DC-10.
First, your quote from me was taken completely out of context, I believe intentionally. The screw up with the 737 MAX was almost completely with the way public relations were handled and a little with the change in the characteristics of the flight control system without proper notification to pilots. The changes with weight, balance, and thrust issues were not of great significance no matter how this was characterized by attorneys hoping to extract funds from Boeing.
Engine changes have been done on multiple aircraft lines over the years on just about every line of aircraft ever conceived from General Aviation to Airliners. They typically do not change the name of name of the plane because of it. oOur statement is so ridiculous that it casts doubt on every other statement that you have made. It seems obvious that if you actually have any aviation background at all... that it included no historical perspective. These days anyone who reads something on Wikipedia or watches a slanted news magazine report believes that they are an expert on just about everything.
Oh and I did go to the article you linked to written by George Leopold. Leopold is not an aviation expert and the “expert” he chose to quote in the article almost sounds like someone dreamed up by the Babylon Bee.
“a veteran software engineer and experienced, instrument-rated pilot who has flown aircraft simulators as large as the Boeing 757.” Really??? Those are his qualifications? He is a private pilot with an instrument rating who makes a living as a software engineer? That is as good as Leopold could come up with? And you went with this article hook line and sinker?
An amusing anecdote that probably supports your point of view more than mine. A couple years ago we had two test pilots who were trained by the military and now work for Boeing at our house for dinner. We live on an airport and have airplanes. We took them out to our hangar to look at our aircraft. Both of them said that they could not fly our airplanes. They said that they had never received any training in basic aircraft. We thought that they were joking at first but they insisted that everything that they flew had fly by wire systems with a computer between them and the actual control surfaces. Neither had ever flow a normal general avaiation airplane.
After talking with them it felt like basic airmanship as outlined in my favorite book on aviation, Stick and Rudder by Wolfgang Langewiesche was no longer a priority in the military or with the people running Boeing. It was shocking actually.
I don’t think it’s a good thing that it almost immediately needed a year-long fix, and now needs more.If it weren't for the previous issue, you never would have heard about this. This type of issue happens all the time.
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