Boeing’s new 737 Max problem is ‘easy fix,’ analyst says

MSN ^ | 4/9/2021 | Claudia Assis

[Shadylake]

Boeing Co. stock traded lower Friday after the aerospace and defense company late Thursday flagged a new problem with 737 Max jets, with at least one Wall Street analyst saying that a fix would be easy and cause “minimal disruption” for Boeing customers.

[Mr.Unique]

A couple years ago we had two test pilots who were trained by the military and now work for Boeing at our house for dinner.

Military test pilots who had never flown a T-37, T-38, T-41, T-2, T-6....?

[CodeToad]

“The 737 is a good plane and I have no issues flying on one with American pilots.”

United Airlines is out to change your mind on that one.

[libh8er]

First, your quote from me was taken completely out of context, I believe intentionally.

Yes it was - and intentionally. I wanted to emphasize only the part I agreed with you on :-)

Engine changes have been done on multiple aircraft lines over the years on just about every line of aircraft ever conceived from General Aviation to Airliners.

That is true. But this wasn't a simple engine change where you swap one model with another. Like the author said these were bigger engines and if they were mounted at the same spot beneath the wings the ground clearance would have been less, making for risky landings. So they were moved forward with respect to the leading edge of the wing -- and that changed the flight characteristics. It's because of this change (aerodynamics) that the model should have been given a different name, not because of the engines. The author clearly said so.

[libh8er]

He is a private pilot with an instrument rating who makes a living as a software engineer? That is as good as Leopold could come up with? And you went with this article hook line and sinker?

Well.. he is knowledgeable. I agree with one of Ben Shapiro's philosophies - just because someone has a degree or two in something doesn't make them automatically right. Like Ben I try to look at the merits of someone's argument without regard to what their background is. Now it just so happens that people with a background (academic or otherwise) in something tend to be right more often. But it's not a given. And conversely, someone lacking an academic background is not automatically wrong.

[fireman15]

These two claimed that they were not trained to fly aircraft that were not fly by wire. They were very sincere about this. They said that they would not know how to fly one of our airplanes without instruction. I do not know if this means that they were not given introductory flights in any aircraft with conventional control linkages, or some type of introductory course. My wife and I were both shocked by what we were told. We have numerous retired military pilots on the airfield that we live on but they were trained in a different era. My brother-in-law is currently a full bird colonel and is currently a “squadron commander” in the Air Force. When I get a chance I will ask him about the current training regimen.

[fireman15]

So they were moved forward with respect to the leading edge of the wing — and that changed the flight characteristics. It's because of this change (aerodynamics) that the model should have been given a different name, not because of the engines. The author clearly said so.

I know what the author said and I appreciate your ability to repeat what you have been told. Nearly every successful line of aircraft receives numerous engine changes during the time that they are manufactured and they typically change the flight characteristics of the airplane often dramatically. The author and you have no historical perspective. The Piper P-28 is an aircraft line that would be a good example for you to look up. They have come with a multitude of engines, completely redesigned wings, various model names and vastly different load capacities and performance specs. Yet they are all still known as P-28s.

[Mr.Unique]

Highly unlikely that a full bird Colonel is a squadron commander.

But, ok.

[fireman15]

He made full bird a few years ago... he’s at the same place. I actually don’t know for sure what his current position is called. He started out enlisted when he was 18 and went to officers training after he earned an engineering degree. My wife’s sister was in the Air Force for 27 years and their oldest son and daughter also joined the Air Force. I used to piss off my wife’s sister by calling her a super senior master sergeant. She actually outranked Col. Bob when they first met.

[BDParrish]

If you are really interested in this may I suggest the blancolirio YouTube Channel:
https://www.youtube.com/user/blancolirio/search?query=737%20max

[coon2000]

Not one of those points to an issue with the design or safety of the aircraft.