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There are few if any true placebo control tests of ANY vaccines.
1 posted on 04/21/2021 8:29:12 AM PDT by SecAmndmt
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2 posted on 04/21/2021 8:30:19 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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So what. Is the FDA going to reign in big Pharma?

The FDA IS Big Pharma. These are the scum who say that ECT and lobotomies are safe and effective. The FDA is worse than worthless.

Except at attacking vitamin salesmen.


3 posted on 04/21/2021 8:32:49 AM PDT by Seruzawa (The political Left is the Garden of Eden of Incompetence - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: SecAmndmt

Omelet, eggs


4 posted on 04/21/2021 8:34:22 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Blessed Mother of Bitch!)
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To: SecAmndmt

Seems like intentional spoilage.

COVID is hardly a death sentence. I hardly think it is unethical to withhold a medicine during drug trials. It’s sort of how science is done. Unless, of course, you want to spoil the science, muddy the water, and hide the evidence.


5 posted on 04/21/2021 8:35:26 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("I see you did something -- why you so racist?")
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I thought I’ve seen mention over nearly 10,000 deaths, maybe that was for all of the experimental vaccines combined?


6 posted on 04/21/2021 8:37:03 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Buy American, Hire American! End All Worker Visa Programs. Replace Visa Workers w/ American Wo)
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7 posted on 04/21/2021 8:38:34 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: SecAmndmt

When reading this type of thing always remember that evil is virtue, up is down, left is right, and if it seems like it might be best for the group putting individuals at risk is good.


8 posted on 04/21/2021 8:43:44 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: SecAmndmt

>> and giving the control groups the active vaccine

Yep.

A friend of mine took part in a trial test last year and he didn’t know which group he was in. The administrators said that it wouldn’t matter because each pool of subjects would be given both placebo and vaccine (in different sequence).

We’ll never accurately know the long term affects.


9 posted on 04/21/2021 8:49:33 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity. )
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To: SecAmndmt

Most people do not know that the actual number for “adverse events” reports to VAERS after covid vax is actually well over 250,000 according to the CDC, not 56,869.

The 56,000+ number is the number of reports that VAERS has PUBLISHED not the number of reports they have received. They only have the capacity to publish 5-7,000 a week. They are months behind.

I have posted and linked twice to two different news sources who have gotten the total numbers from the CDC. The first one was when the number was 205,000 and the second one a week later from a different news source was 233,000....an increase of 28,000 in just one week.

Weeks ago I also posted a link to an animated graph that showed the numbers PUBLISHED by the week and each week VAERS would go back and dramatically fill in numbers all the way back to January.


10 posted on 04/21/2021 8:49:54 AM PDT by Cathi
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From the article: “Makers of COVID-19 vaccines are now destroying long-term safety studies by unblinding their trials and giving the control groups the active vaccine, claiming it is “unethical” to withhold an effective vaccine -In so doing, they make it virtually impossible to assess any long-term safety and effectiveness, and the true benefit versus cost -”

What an absurd claim. The control groups received a saline solution as a placebo. They didn’t receive an alternative treatment/vaccine. There is no difference between the control groups and the general population.


12 posted on 04/21/2021 9:15:02 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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No “vaccine” for me, thanks. I am in the control group.


16 posted on 04/21/2021 9:33:25 AM PDT by GBA (Endeavor to persevere)
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To: SecAmndmt

Since vaccine makers are free from any liability why would they do that?

Unless . . .

They know that what they’re making are not really vaccines.


21 posted on 04/21/2021 9:57:06 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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Why do you need a placebo group for long term affects?

How about let us who don’t want the vaccine, live normal lives without it and then use US as the control group????

Don’t force us to get the vaccine in order to travel, shop, work, go to school, etc....


22 posted on 04/21/2021 10:01:50 AM PDT by nitzy
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I’m part of the control group.


25 posted on 04/21/2021 10:33:18 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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Longterm COVID-19 vaccine studies? Do they mean the 3-5-10-15 year studies?...D’oh! of course not...


43 posted on 04/21/2021 11:48:48 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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