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How long is a day on Venus? Scientists crack mysteries of our closest neighbor
UCLA ^ | April 29, 2021 | Christopher Crockett |

Posted on 04/30/2021 9:34:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin

Venus is an enigma. It’s the planet next door and yet reveals little about itself. An opaque blanket of clouds smothers a harsh landscape pelted by acid rain and baked at temperatures that can liquify lead.

Now, new observations from the safety of Earth are lifting the veil on some of Venus’ most basic properties. By repeatedly bouncing radar off the planet’s surface over the last 15 years, a UCLA-led team has pinned down the precise length of a day on Venus, the tilt of its axis and the size of its core. The findings are published today in the journal Nature Astronomy.

“Venus is our sister planet, and yet these fundamental properties have remained unknown,” said Jean-Luc Margot, a UCLA professor of Earth, planetary and space sciences who led the research.

Earth and Venus have a lot in common: Both rocky planets have nearly the same size, mass and density. And yet they evolved along wildly different paths. Fundamentals such as how many hours are in a Venusian day provide critical data for understanding the divergent histories of these neighboring worlds.

Changes in Venus’ spin and orientation reveal how mass is spread out within. Knowledge of its internal structure, in turn, fuels insight into the planet’s formation, its volcanic history and how time has altered the surface. Plus, without precise data on how the planet moves, any future landing attempts could be off by as much as 30 kilometers.

“Without these measurements,” said Margot, “we’re essentially flying blind.”

The new radar measurements show that an average day on Venus lasts 243.0226 Earth days — roughly two-thirds of an Earth year. What's more, the rotation rate of Venus is always changing: A value measured at one time will be a bit larger or smaller than a previous value. The team estimated the length of a day from each of the individual measurements, and they observed differences of at least 20 minutes.

“That probably explains why previous estimates didn’t agree with one another,” Margot said.

Venus’ heavy atmosphere is likely to blame for the variation. As it sloshes around the planet, it exchanges a lot of momentum with the solid ground, speeding up and slowing down its rotation. This happens on Earth too, but the exchange adds or subtracts just one millisecond from each day. The effect is much more dramatic on Venus because the atmosphere is roughly 93 times as massive as Earth’s, and so it has a lot more momentum to trade.

The UCLA-led team also reports that Venus tips to one side by precisely 2.6392 degrees (Earth is tilted by about 23 degrees), an improvement on the precision of previous estimates by a factor of 10. The repeated radar measurements further revealed the glacial rate at which the orientation of Venus’ spin axis changes, much like a spinning child’s top. On Earth, this “precession” takes about 26,000 years to cycle around once. Venus needs a little longer: about 29,000 years.

With these exacting measurements of how Venus spins, the team calculated that the planet’s core is about 3,500 kilometers across — quite similar to Earth — though they cannot yet deduce whether it’s liquid or solid.

Venus as a giant disco ball

On 21 separate occasions from 2006 to 2020, Margot and his colleagues aimed radio waves at Venus from the 70-meter–wide Goldstone antenna in California’s Mojave Desert. Several minutes later, those radio waves bounced off Venus and came back to Earth. The radio echo was picked up at Goldstone and at the Green Bank Observatory in West Virginia.

“We use Venus as a giant disco ball,” said Margot, with the radio dish acting like a flashlight and the planet’s landscape like millions of tiny reflectors. “We illuminate it with an extremely powerful flashlight — about 100,000 times brighter than your typical flashlight. And if we track the reflections from the disco ball, we can infer properties about the spin [state].”

The complex reflections erratically brighten and dim the return signal, which sweeps across Earth. The Goldstone antenna sees the echo first, then Green Bank sees it roughly 20 seconds later. The exact delay between receipt at the two facilities provides a snapshot of how quickly Venus is spinning, while the particular window of time in which the echoes are most similar reveals the planet’s tilt.

The observations required exquisite timing to ensure that Venus and Earth were properly positioned. And both observatories had to be working perfectly — which wasn’t always the case. “We found that it’s actually challenging to get everything to work just right in a 30-second period,” Margot said. “Most of the time, we get some data. But it’s unusual that we get all the data that we’re hoping to get.”

Despite the challenges, the team is forging ahead and has turned its sights on Jupiter’s moons Europa and Ganymede. Many researchers strongly suspect that Europa, in particular, hides a liquid water ocean beneath a thick shell of ice. Ground-based radar measurements could fortify the case for an ocean and reveal the thickness of the ice shell.

And the team will continue bouncing radar off of Venus. With each radio echo, the veil over Venus lifts a little bit more, bringing our sister planet into ever sharper view.

This research was supported by NASA, the Jet Propulsion Laboratory and the National Science Foundation.

Other researchers who contributed to the study are Donald Campbell of Cornell University; Jon Giorgini, Joseph Jao and Lawrence Snedeker of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory; and Frank Ghigo and Amber Bonsall of the National Radio Astronomy Observatory in West Virginia.


TOPICS: Astronomy
KEYWORDS: jpl; ucla; venus
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1 posted on 04/30/2021 9:34:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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Credit: Jean-Luc Margot/UCLA and NASA
2 posted on 04/30/2021 9:37:37 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

It just seems like 243.0226 days.


3 posted on 04/30/2021 9:41:24 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: BenLurkin

Now I’m jealous. I guess it’s just a case of Venus envy.


4 posted on 04/30/2021 9:44:50 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Where words can mean anything they can also mean nothing.)
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To: BenLurkin

She’s got it!


5 posted on 04/30/2021 9:53:16 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (No audit. No peace.)
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To: BenLurkin

>>The Goldstone antenna sees the echo first, then Green Bank sees it roughly 20 seconds later.

Saaayyyyy whaaaat?!?


6 posted on 04/30/2021 10:18:15 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: BenLurkin

So Venus takes longer to rotate once than it takes to revolve around the Sun. That means loooong workdays. But really long weekends, too. That also means that you could have two birthdays in the same day.


7 posted on 04/30/2021 10:37:17 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

...oh, baby...


8 posted on 04/30/2021 10:54:32 PM PDT by Weirdad (Orthodox Americanism: It's what's good for the world! (Not communofascism!))
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>>The Goldstone antenna sees the echo first, then Green Bank sees it roughly 20 seconds later.

Saaayyyyy whaaaat?!?

Specular reflection of a location on Venus. The 20 seconds is from how fast Venus rotates and points the reflective point at Green Bank. It doesn't have to do with the speed of light which would only cause milliseconds of difference between Goldstone and Green Bank.

9 posted on 04/30/2021 10:58:08 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Police should refuse duty at NBA venues. Let them wallow in their desired chaos without police.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Yeah baby, she’s got it.


10 posted on 04/30/2021 11:16:29 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: BenLurkin

I know it is pretty hot and the a/c bills must be huge...


11 posted on 05/01/2021 12:36:42 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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To: BenLurkin

Venus sounds like an excellent place to start transferring any and all Socialists, Communists and members of the DemoRat party.


12 posted on 05/01/2021 2:14:41 AM PDT by LaMudBug (LaMudBug.. Geaux Tigers (LSU))
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To: BenLurkin

singing “Disco Inferno”.


13 posted on 05/01/2021 2:37:19 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Oh baby she’s got it!


14 posted on 05/01/2021 3:45:30 AM PDT by jmacusa (The result of conformity is everyone will like you but yourself.)
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To: LaMudBug

They wouldn’t like Saturn. A day on Saturn is only 10 hours and 42 minutes long.

Not enough time to do a whole lot of rioting and burning.


15 posted on 05/01/2021 3:46:55 AM PDT by jmacusa (The result of conformity is everyone will like you but yourself.)
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To: one guy in new jersey
Yeah baby, she’s got it.

She's your fire at your desire.

16 posted on 05/01/2021 4:25:13 AM PDT by JPG (er a month club will be a sure winner.)
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To: BenLurkin

They’re putting the disco in discovery!


17 posted on 05/01/2021 5:06:08 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: BenLurkin

Is George Adamski still around to ask? He claimed to have talked to people from Venus back in the 1950s.

I read his book back then.

https://www.history.com/news/george-adamski-ufo-alien-photos


18 posted on 05/01/2021 6:59:20 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ((Democrats have declared us to be THE OBSOLETE MAN in the Twilight Zone.))
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To: BenLurkin

Venus probably could be “terraformed”, maybe over some great period of time, IF a way could be found to reduce the CO2 content of the atmosphere closer to the rate on earth, and IF done by splitting CO2 into into Carbon and Oxygen without generating an amount of Carbon Monoxide nearly equal to the CO2 lost. (Otherwise you just get an atmospheric change from a ton of CO2 to a ton of CO. Most known processes for splitting Carbon Monoxide don’t create carbon and Oxygen, they create CO2 and Oxygen).

If that could be done (not with available human knowledge and means) the massive volume and atmospheric pressure of Venus could also be reduced, and as you can see by the explanation of Venus in the article, such a change in Venus atmosphere could impact other aspects of Venus, including its rate of spin on its axis.

For instance, it has a gravity near to Earth’s, but its massive atmosphere (CO2 is so much heavier than Oxygen and Nitrogen) against it’s land surface that the atmosphere is likely a factor in it’s different spin rate compared to Earth’s. If Venus core is metal, a change in it’s spin rate would likely affect what magnetic field it would generate. A greater magnetic field would lower the rate energetic particles (gama and UV rayes) from the sun reach the surface. That would likely affect the survival rate of any life on the surface.

Maybe humans 1,000 years from now might be able to conduct a 100 year job on that experiment.


19 posted on 05/01/2021 7:13:31 AM PDT by Wuli
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1000 years from now????
Maybe I’m a skeptic, but 4 years from now we will all be riding horses and lighting our computers with candles. Defense from rioters will be thrown rocks.


20 posted on 05/01/2021 7:58:24 AM PDT by my job (Keep silent and hide your incredible stupidity, post a Biden sign/sticker and remove all doubt.)
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