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What environmental footprint do electric cars really have?
Deutsche Welle ^ | 06.30.2021 | Klaus Ulrich

Posted on 06/30/2021 10:22:06 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Since the German government started handing out big subsidies for the purchase of battery-electric vehicles, sales figures have increased significantly. But electric cars only make up 1.2% of the country’s total registered stock of around 48 million vehicles.

An important reason for this, in addition to high prices and a shaky charging infrastructure, are considerable doubts about the much touted environmental friendliness of electric vehicles. […]

Even among experts though there is often a dispute about the actual carbon footprint of electric cars. Just last week an aggressive exchange of blows was on display.

In an open letter to the EU, combustion engine experts claimed that the CO2 emissions created during the charging process of electric cars could be underestimated by a factor of at least two due to a newly discovered calculation error.

The letter also called to keep using vehicles with internal combustion engines in the future — but ones that run on bio or artificially produced fuels. Other scientists, who do not belong to the combustion engine fan club, responded promptly. The letter was branded, among other things, as “extremely embarrassing” and “a scientifically disguised lobbyist letter” that tried desperately to save the “piston engines.”

The supposed calculation error was in reality a conscious decision and has been a methodological standard that has been in place for years. …

(Excerpt) Read more at dw.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Travel
KEYWORDS: automotive; electric; electriccars; envirowackos; eussr; ev; pollution
Sure, a “conscious decision” like omitting water vapor from the “greenhouse gas” calculations, resulting in phony “hockey stick” graphs.
1 posted on 06/30/2021 10:22:06 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

he shoots he scores


2 posted on 06/30/2021 10:22:48 PM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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More nukes


3 posted on 06/30/2021 10:35:05 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ) )
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To: campaignPete R-CT

The only way.

There are many nuke start-ups in action.

Stay tuned.


4 posted on 06/30/2021 10:44:54 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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To: Olog-hai

Had to laugh at the liberal lawyers down the hill with their new Teasler thing. Came home to see it being carted of by a big, smelly diesel flat bed truck.


5 posted on 06/30/2021 10:45:46 PM PDT by doorgunner69 ("Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.." -Joseph Stalin)
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At least they didn’t experience involuntary immolation.


6 posted on 06/30/2021 10:52:23 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

Pay no attention to the man buying the curtain.


7 posted on 06/30/2021 10:57:01 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Give ‘em the same treatment VW got for gaming the emissions test.


8 posted on 06/30/2021 11:25:16 PM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: eyedigress

You mean the one in WY that the present governor is all a twitter to be a part of?

You mean the one that in part furthers the destruction of the WY coal industry the Governor is all a twitter about?

You mean the one Bill Gates is pushing that is supposed to be built on top of a shuttered coal fired plant, that doesn’t have near the capacity that the coal fired plant used to produce.

You mean the one the location of will be named at the end of Jun or the beginning of Jul?

That one?

Frankly Scarlett, if I was living in WY, I would be forming a committee to primary the Governor for undermining, No Pun Intended, the States energy production. Particularly the coal mining industry.

Even not living in WY I am desirous to see him get the same treatment Liz Cheney is getting. It’s a pretty in your face move by someone who seems clueless to the long term success of the Great State of WY. The State is all about, energy production.

One would think a Governor might not want to buy into a Bill Gates solution with such enthusiasm at the expense of the industry that will guarantee electricity at the cheapest possible rate for the next fifty years or the Second Coming of the Lord which ever comes first.


9 posted on 07/01/2021 2:56:24 AM PDT by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: Olog-hai
EVs were never intended to have any kind of environmental benefit, despite all the propaganda nonsense you see in the media about them.

The whole EV movement is nothing more than a classic “rent-seeking” initiative in economic parlance. It’s all about well-connected industries using their influence in government to push for regulations aimed at compelling people to buy expensive crap we really don’t need.

10 posted on 07/01/2021 3:11:40 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: Olog-hai

Funny, one of my passengers claimed he was a repube (my word not his) and praised EVs. I told him they were not good for the environment when a simple everyday crash in one of those vehicles required a HazMat team to respond to the scene. And the batteries alone took many many years (over 1,000 years) to decay. He was like oh no they recycle them. I told them any manufactured product that is recycled, no more than 30% of that product is recyclable. He argued with me until I let him out at his destination. (The discussion started off when we passed a solar farm for the local airport and him questioning the efficacy of the solar panels.


11 posted on 07/01/2021 5:41:38 AM PDT by zaxtres (`)
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Evs are like dog owners who let their dog crap in other peoples yard…they have emissions…they just dump them somewhere else…not green at all…


12 posted on 07/01/2021 6:49:56 AM PDT by TnTnTn
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