Posted on 07/08/2021 4:10:53 PM PDT by BeauBo
Hell, the latest one now is lambda.
Lab is cranking them out more than one a week, and releasing them wherever.
Be very afraid. /s
And shilemcases are rising hospitalizations and deaths not so much. Even in breakthrough cases the disease is much less severe thanks to the vaccine
My sons told me their holding out for the Catherine Zeta-Jones variant. But even then, they will still never get vaxxed.
Almost 50% of the new covid cases in Israel were from the vaccinated.
Expect more inflated death stats out of the areas with low vaccine participation rates.
Surprise, surprise, surprise.
“How many cases are vaccinated and how many are unvaccinated.”
The article doesn’t say, but states: “The vaccines are a relatively good match for the Delta variant, with studies showing the Pfizer vaccine is somewhere between 64% to 88% effective.”
In terms of deaths however, they do give numbers for Louisiana:
“Since the vaccines became available, over 99% of coronavirus deaths in Louisiana were in people who were unvaccinated. Just 27 of the 3,920 deaths were among people who were fully vaccinated”
That is even more impressive, when you consider that those vaccinated were disproportionally people (like the elderly) who are more vulnerable to COVID.
“Those jabbed are super spreaders.”
Nonsense.
I work at a hospital and just talked to a doc from Springfield Cox Hospital - he said most of the people he was admitting were saying ‘but i already had the vaccine’. He made sure he said ‘but that is not scientific, just my experience last night’. So bad in Springfield they were sending a team there. I guess it’s the hot spot of the nation for Delta variant.
I said I had heard the Delta variant was more contagious but less deadly and he said the people he was admitting he felt were MORE sick than what he dealt with this past winter. He also said almost all had other health issues.
Springfield Missouri, he said he had to transfer patients as far away as Carbondale Illinois to get a bed.
Batten down the hatches. It could be worse than last year.
That was a fantastic video. TY.
“The fact that a person who is fully vaccinated does not count as a “case” of COVID-19 unless...”
I don’t believe that is a fact, at all.
Tests are not conducted differently, based on vaccination status. I have been tested both before and after having been vaccinated, and was never asked my vaccination status.
I also don’t believe your claim that radically different standards are used to report case numbers, depending on whether the person is vaccinated or not. It is ridiculous on its face.
It’s the Mississippi delta version variant.
“They stop testing Covid goes away.”
Those people in the ICUs struggling to breathe will all be cured if testing is halted?
COVID does not exist?
The dead would have lived, if not for testing?
It is ridiculous on its face.
Like lockdowns, masks, refusing to prevent or treat it.
RE: Delta is more infectious, and gets to younger folks more (over half of Israel’s Delta cases are among minors, who they do not vaccinate (except for exceptional co-morbidities). The number vaccinated adults becoming symptomatic with the Delta variant in Israel is on the order of dozens per day.
The question is this — of the younger folks, what is the AVERAGE condition of their infection severity? Mild, Asymptomatic or serious?
You said the hospitalized are only a few dozen — how many of these are vaccinated and how many are unvaccinated?
I may be wrong, but from the looks of it, although the Delta Variant is aggressive in looking for a human host ( very transmissive ), it’s severity and lethality is not as strong as the original Coronavirus.
Yeah, with the majority of the population vaccinated it makes sense. More importantly:
"According to the ministry, the Pfizer vaccine’s effectiveness in preventing symptomatic COVID-19 has dropped by some 30 percent to 64%, given the spread of the Delta variant. The data shows that during May, when the strain was less prevalent, the vaccine was 94.3% effective. The data, however, also shows that the vaccine is still highly effective against preventing serious symptoms and hospitalization. During May, that figure stood at 98.2%, and during June, it was 93%."
“I guess it’s (Springfield, Missouri) the hot spot of the nation for Delta variant.”
Yes. Missouri leads the nation in the proportion of new cases that are the Delta variant, and Springfield in particular has been reporting capacity issues with new admissions, and even ventilators.
As you say, it could be the bellwether for the Nation, as far as the Delta variant goes.
Delta is already over 50% of new cases Nationwide. As we have seen in India and the UK, it spreads quicker. It might be 90% of new cases Nationwide, by the end of the month.
I am not sure if Delta is “less” deadly, but it does not have a genetic variation that would make it “More” deadly. It might just be that severity and mortality is lower in the USA, because the older and more vulnerable are already highly vaccinated, and using a more effective vaccine. So new cases are skewed strongly to younger and stronger patients.
Israel is proportionally seeing a higher rate of symptomatic breakthrough cases by Delta against Pfizer, but still strong protection against severe or fatal disease.
Typically, changes in deaths rates lag changes in case rates by a few weeks, so by the end of the month we should have a pretty clear view of how the Delta wave will shake out.
“given the upward move in hospitalizations, that (the death rate) won’t be far behind.”
We can hope that the younger population of these new cases will hold up better than the older folks who were more heavily represented in last Winter’s wave.
But the next few weeks will tell.
There is a fear, that just as the mutations in Delta make it marginally more evasive to the immune system and vaccine protection, that the antibody cocktail treatment may also be marginally less effective. I have seen some state that already.
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