[Chickensoup]

Vanity and shameless: A friend is looking for a listing of information to counter the Vaccine march. She is in her thirties and her family is practically disowning her Any websites to recommend? Looking for data

[ifinnegan]

It won’t help if her family is that psycho.

[CatOwner]

findanewfamily.com

[Artemis Webb]

This doesn’t answer your question but my thought is that there is no point in arguing. Both “sides” have staked out a position and minds are not likely to change.

[griswold3]

Karl Denninger at tickerforum.org has a wealth of information.

[Gene Eric]

“GTH, and goodbye”

[cgbg]

Does she own her body?

Does she own her mind?

If the answer to either or both questions is “no”, then she is a slave and she should obey her masters.

If the answer to both questions is “yes” she should tell her family to go f&^% themselves—permanently.

They have declared war on her, and it is a war she must fight and win.

[Chode]

vaxxpport vaxxport2

[conservative98]

The Twitter:
https://mobile.twitter.com/RMConservative

The Conservative Review with Daniel Horowitz podcast:
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvN2I5YTg2MTktMTRhMC00NTk4LTliNTAtYTY0MjAwODc1OGEwLzljNDEwMWQ2LWY4MmItNDM1MS05NzgwLWE5YzIwMTM3MTYyOC81MGM2NDczMS05ZDdkLTRkYzctOTlhMy1hOWMyMDEzNzE2MjgvcG9kY2FzdC5yc3M=

The articles:
https://www.theblaze.com/u/danielhorowitz#toggle-gdpr

[G Larry]

- The vaccine has NOT been tested for safety in Pregnant women for their health and the health of the baby.

- The vaccine has NOT been tested on those who have already recovered from Covid.

- The vaccine has and extensive list of critical side effects.

- The vaccinated still get sick and die and they continue to push booster shots, which seems to indicate it doesn't work as advertised.

- Mask mandates still apply to the vaccinated.

[billyboy15]

Don’t waste your time. People like her family are totally brainwashed and won’t pay attention to anything which counters their programming.

[logi_cal869]

I was just smeared in my office by a covidian (she’s in her early 70s; her choice to take it, not to mock me).

She turned around and asked me,

Her: “What about you? Are you going to get the shot?”

Me: “What shot?”

Her: “The virus shot.”

Me: “What (air quotes) ‘shot’ ???”

Her: “The vaccine?”

Me: “Oh, you mean the fake vaccine? The ‘vaccine’ which doesn’t prevent transmission? The ‘vaccine’ which doesn’t prevent illness? The ‘vaccine’ which they’re pressing people under 50 who have TWICE the risk of dying in a car crash than by the virus itself? The ‘vaccine’ which they’re compelling CHILDREN to take who have statistical ZERO risk of disease or death to their teachers who are VACCINATED???”

She walked away. I doubt seriously it will ever come up again.

One of our other ‘vaccine’ recipients - in his early 30s - was told that he was exposed to his ‘case positive test’ sister; he was told to wear a mask for 2 weeks.

I didn’t say a word.

However: Mock me, challenge me, coerce me:

Watch out.

I’m fortunate to be a part of a company which has NOT drunk the Kool-Aid, but I have a T-Detect test in transit and a ONE HUNDRED POINT annotated list of reasons WHY I WON’T GET THE ‘VACCINE’.

If her family is so cruel, she really needs to let it be and wait it out, because there is NO INFORMATION which will assuage such fear.

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[Honest Nigerian]

How about just telling said friend to read Free Republic. There are at least two sides to this story. Some people feel it is their own duty to shame you to do “X”.
Free Republic has links to lots of stuff. And those links go in various directions and provide other info.

[HamiltonJay]

The Media, CDC and others have been dishonest and liars about all things COVID since day one.

You are not more likely to get someone sick if you are unvaccinated, in fact, vaccinated “break through” cases actually carry more viral load in their nostrils than unvaccinated folks who are infected.

Break through cases for folks who are vaccinated are NOT RARE... this is another LIE.. it actually appears that vaccinated folks are actually MORE likely to catch the delta variant than unvaccinated people.

What vaccines do appear to do is lessen the likelihood you will have a severe case or die from it if you get it, that’s it.

Of course treatment with Monoclonal antibodies within 10 days of symptoms appearing also appears to have the same net effect. Reducing the need for hospitalization to around 5% and death to around 1%... And that’s among the HIGH RISK population, because you can’t get them unless you are high risk.

I haven’t seen a side by side comparison of the vaccines among just the high risk, but I would bet the rates of vaccinated vs Monoclonal Antibody treatment aren’t much different and honestly would not be surprised if the monoclonal antibody treatment actually exceeds the vaccine in results...

all the other crap about being vaccinated is horse poop. The unvaccinated are not more likely to infect someone than a vaccinated person if they catch it.

If you shun the unvaccinated out of fear they will get you sick, then you should be shunning the vaccinated as well.

This is all about politics not facts.

Her family unfortunately is just getting their information from the propaganda megaphone.

[HamiltonJay]

Oh, and let’s not even get into the vaccines and their risks both short and long term... because NO ONE CAN TELL YOU WHAT THEY HONESTLY ARE... PERIOD.

The spike protein itself is a toxin, it binds to Ace2 Receptors in the body and causes inflammation and damage.

The claim that the mRNA vaccines spike proteins remain in the arm has been show to be a LIE, flat out lie. They flow throughout the body, attaching to Ace2 receptors throughout the body, including the heart and other organs where they can cause permanent damage.

The claim that your body will only produce the spike proteins for 2 weeks and stop, has also been shown, at least in some people to be a complete and absolute lie.

Basically because this entire thing is politics not science it is IMPOSSIBLE to make an informed decision because you are not being told the honest risks or benefits.

Universal vaccination to me is an insane path. 40s to 50s is where vaccination starts to make sense, unless someone is high risk starts to make some sort of sense based on what information we are being given.

Vaccinating healthy young people, let alone children, with no risk factors universally makes absolutely zero sense.

[boxlunch]

https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/
A good location to start.
I’m very busy next few days but will post other links if I can.

[SamAdams76]

I'm in a similar situation but not as extreme.

Forget the websites, your friend just needs to find a new circle of friends. It's unfortunate but there is no reasoning with people who will disown family over something as silly as the "vaccines."

[T. Rustin Noone]

Easy Peasy...

Instruct your friend to tell her family that...

1. She would love to take the vaccine, but she is in the control group and her taking the jab would mess up the data...

2. She is waiting for the vaccine in pill form...

3. She tested positive for something (PCR) so she must have natural immunity. No shot required.

4. She is waiting for an ACTUAL vaccine

[Safetgiver]

How about “My body, my choice you assholes”?

[PatriotarchyQ]

Since she is in her 30s, she is a little long in the tooth for Seeking Arrangements. But she is young enough to pull herself up by her bootstraps and survive disowning.

[rxsid]

For starters...has she gotten a serology (blood) test? If not, perhaps something to consider. If she has natural antibodies, she's got better immunity than lab made immunity without the intentional exposure to injection side effects.

Large Israeli study: Natural immunity provides 13 times more protection against Delta than Pfizer's vaccine does
https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2021/08/26/large-israeli-study-natural-immunity-provides-13-times-more-protection-against-delta-than-pfizers-vaccine-does-n411863
The study: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full.pdf

Scientists: Fully vaccinated carry 251 times the Covid viral load as unvaccinated
https://www.worldtribune.com/scientists-fully-vaccinated-carry-251-times-the-covid-viral-load-as-unvaccinated/
The study: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897733

 

Then, there are a plethora of stories out there regarding the waning effectiveness of the injections, especially in the last several months (thus the "need" for a 3rd shot in ~6 months or less)

 

Reports Of Vaccinated Breakthrough Cases/Hospitalizations/Deaths Are On The Rise - Sharply

A sampling of stories from around the country, and world.

When looking at stories, or data, keep in mind the timeframe. Is the data they are sharing/reporting regarding the entire vaccination timeline (from Jan), when there were far fewer variants and far fewer participating in the experimental injections? Or, is it what's happening recently, in the last week or last month with a growing pool of variants and participants in the experiments?

• Reports from July Archived Here: COVID Booster Shots for All Americans, Starting Sept. 20 (Increased risk of severe disease among those vaccinated early).

• SF General and UCSF Staff COVID-19 Infections Raise Concern About Rate of Breakthrough Cases - About 80% new cases in July were vax'd (08.01.2021)

• Sunriver Family Reunion Leads To Breakthrough COVID Cases, Hospitalizations (OR) - 62% of the covid infections from the reunion of 28 were vax'd, some of those hospitalized. (Aug 2 2021)

• Breakthrough COVID Cases Among Those Fully Vaccinated Are Rising In Colorado - 20% new cases in first 3 weeks in July were vax'd. (08.02.2021)

• Ocean County got about 100 COVID-19 ‘breakthrough’ infections in the past week (NJ) - 3X more breakthrough cases in last week, than previous ~28 weeks combined. (08.02.2021)

• Quick update on the Israeli vaccine data - It is bad and getting worse. - Older vax'd - 12 fold increase in "serious illness" in last month (08.03.2021)

• New study shows updated numbers for breakthrough cases in Lexington (KY) - Nearly 30% new cases last month were vax'd. (08.03.2021)

• Massachusetts breakthrough coronavirus cases jump 1,364 in one week, state’s daily infection tally up 883 amid delta spike - About 1/3 of new cases in last few weeks are vax'd. (08.03.2021)

• Despite breakthrough cases and deaths, Utah doctors continue to push vaccination - 3 out of 5 (60%) covid deaths over the weekend were fully vax'd. (08.03.2021)

• Roanoke-area rise in COVID-19 is accompanied by increase in breakthrough cases (VA) - Of the past week’s increase of 371 new cases, and 31 hospitalized, 19% of those two groups are vax'd - Up from 1-3% in previous weeks (08.03.2021)

• Almost 1 in 5 new virus cases in Fredericksburg district are among vaccinated (08.03.2021)

• With 165 cases, Dare County reports 5th highest week of new COVID-19 cases since pandemic began (NC) - 22% were vax'd. The same week last year had a total of 43 positive cases. (08.03.2021)

• S. Korea reports more than 1,100 breakthrough infections, 8 patients in critical condition - The tally is sharply up from 779 a week earlier - A 41% increase from previous week. (08.03.2021)

• Summer volleyball tournaments lead to COVID clusters, including several breakthrough cases - 106 total attendee's from HI, 30 covid positive - 19% and 36% were fully vax'd between two venues. (08.05.2021)

• Amid Delta variant and with almost 50% of NFL positive COVID-19 tests among vaccinated players and staff, union calls for daily testing for all - Between July 25th-August 1st, 65 positive cases among players & staff, 32 were fully vax'd. (08.03.2021)

• 8 Mass. fire departments report breakthrough COVID-19 cases - They're seeing a "recent uptick", sent out an alert. (08.06.2021)

• Milton seeing rise in COVID-19 cases, about half in vaccinated residents (MA) - ~65% of town is vax'd. About 50% of new covid cases in last 2 weeks are vax'd. (08.06.2021)

• About Moderna adverse event reports - Received 300,000 reports of side effects after vax over a 3-month period following the launch of its shot, according to internal report from a company that helps Moderna manage the reports.(08.06.2021)

• Majority of Hospitalized COVID-19 Patients at Hospital in Israel Are Fully Vaccinated: Doctor - 85-90% hospitalizations and 95% of severe patients are fully vax'd. Hospital specializes in nursing care for elderly. (08.07.2021)

• COVID: San Francisco Bay Area Restaurants Temporarily Close Due to Breakthrough Cases Among Staff - 100% new covid cases from vax'd. 3 area restaurants in story, 7 total new covid infections among all staff, all staff were required to be vax'd. Citywide, 78% of all eligible SF is vax'd. (08.08.2021)

• State leaders report 36 breakthrough cases at two Southern W.Va. nursing homes - 69% of the 52 "active" cases were vax'd. (08.09.2021)

• Covid Cases Keep Climbing; More Clusters Reported (Martha’s Vineyard) - Of 48 new cases during first week of Aug, 52% were fully vax'd. (08.09.2021)

• CDC Director Admits Claim That Over 99% of In-Hospital Covid Deaths Were Among Unvaccinated People Was Junk - Instead, the actual data was 30X more than stated. 15% of Covid in-hospital deaths in May were vax'd. (08.09.2021)

• [The latest seven-day COVID-19 data for El Paso was released Monday, August 9] - 29% of new cases and 14% death rate were fully vax'd. (08.09.2021)

• NY COVID Hospitalizations Up 229% in Month; Severe Breakthrough Rate Rising in NJ NJ - 18.5% of all new COVID cases, fully vax'd, July 20 - 26. Hospitalization among vax'd Jan - July 26 = 0.004%, from July 20 - July 26 = 3% (74,900% increase). (08.09.2021)

• Don’t Panic, But Breakthrough Cases May Be a Bigger Problem Than You’ve Been Told Current public-health messaging may understate the scale and risk. No good tracking. Every indicator suggests there’s a lot more under the radar than is public. (08.12.2021)

• EXCLUSIVE: At least 74 people on Martha's Vineyard have tested positive for Covid-19 since Barack Obama's maskless 60th birthday bash - the most cases on the island since April (08.13.2021)

• 7 Vaccinated Florida Patients Die of COVID; Nurse Calls Situation 'Disturbing' - All in past 2 weeks. Had treated "hundreds" of COVID patients before & hadn't lost one prior to this.(08.17.2021)

• Hawaii whistleblower: 'More patients dying from vaccine than Covid' - Say's he saw 32 elderly people pass away immediately after taking the Moderna vaccine. Also, medical diagnosis codes changed from other diseases to Covid for billing.(08.17.2021)

• Massive fraud in reporting vaccine injuries; withheld data, pretense of “safe and effective” - EudraVigilance (EU, EEA, Switzerland), MHRA (UK) and VAERS (USA) data, Moderna internal data. (08.17.2021)

•     **** The Following Is From The Most Recent Week ****

• 18 Fully Vaccinated People Die Of COVID-19 In Massachusetts In Past Week - Including 2,500 new breakthrough cases, 496 hospitalizations (in past week). (08.18.2021)

• Israel, Once the Model for Beating Covid, Faces New Surge of Infections - One of the most vaccinated societies, Israel now has one of the highest infection rates in the world, raising questions about the vaccine’s efficacy.(08.18.2021)

• Study: Fully vaccinated people with "breakthrough" COVID Delta infections carry as much virus as the unvaccinated (UK/Oxford) - vaccinated people with "breakthrough" infections could still pose a significant infection risk to those who have not been vaccinated. (08.19.2021)

• Whatcom County’s reported COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough cases nearly double in July (WA) - County breakthrough cases February through June = 98. July cases alone = 95. (08.19.2021)

• In Los Angeles, Breakthrough Infections Are Now 30% Of All New Covid Cases Amid Delta Surge - Fully vax'd infections: March 2021 = 2%, June = 20%, July = 30%. Fully vax'd hospitalizations: April = 5%, July = 13%. (08.19.2021)

• The CDC Only Tracks a Fraction of Breakthrough COVID-19 Infections, Even as Cases Surge - “If you’re limiting yourself to a small subpopulation with only hospitalizations and deaths, you risk a biased viewpoint.” (08.20.2021)

• BOMBSHELL UK data destroys entire premise for vaccine push - 2/3rds of Delta deaths in the UK were vax'd. 02/01 - 08/02 742 deaths, 402 fully vax'd, 79 partially vax'd and 253 unvax'd. (08.21.2021)

• Israeli PM: You're not protected with only 2 COVID shots - Warns fully vaccinated people 'must quickly get the 3rd dose' (08.24.2021)

• Over 60% of deaths in Clark County, NV, (Las Vegas) are now in vaccinated people. - Alex Berenson research. (08.24.2021)

• 52% of Southern Nevada COVID-19 Deaths Were Fully Vaccinated? That's What This Data Says - August 11th – August 19th, 96 deaths, 50 were fully vax'd. Majority of breakthrough cases since 08/04 did NOT have preexisting conditions.(08.25.2021)

• Guess What All 4 of the Dallas Cowboys Who Recently Tested Positive for Covid Have in Common - All were fully vaccinated. Player vax rate is 93%. See above, 08/05, regarding league wide earlier this month. (08.25.2021)