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1 posted on 08/28/2021 6:10:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Just walk away, you do not need the church of have a relationship with God.


2 posted on 08/28/2021 6:11:21 PM PDT by RBW in PA
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501 C3 churches are the real poison.


3 posted on 08/28/2021 6:11:57 PM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why don’t Chicago Catholics as Diocese for permission to take Johnson and Johnson and see what happens. Not encouraging any one to take J and J, just curious.


6 posted on 08/28/2021 6:16:35 PM PDT by amihow (It is Western Civilization that confers privilege, not whiteness. Ask Carson, MLK, Sowell.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I would just quit.

No one is forcing me to get an experimental substance injected into me.


7 posted on 08/28/2021 6:17:11 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just push for a Religious Exemption to getting the Mark.


11 posted on 08/28/2021 6:19:41 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Who was Benito Mussolini?


13 posted on 08/28/2021 6:24:56 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: SeekAndFind

They just keep proving that this has nothing to do with the vaccine. It’s all about the power to tell others what to do.

I don’t care what side of the disease (deadly or hype) you fall on, we all need to stand against this craziness.


15 posted on 08/28/2021 6:29:54 PM PDT by wgmalabama (We will find out if the Vac or virus risk was the correct choice - can we put truth above narrative)
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To: SeekAndFind

naturally, there’s some deception weaved into the following bit of truth-telling. u’ll need to read the rest to find it:

27 Aug: Bloomberg: Previous Covid Prevents Delta Infection Better Than Pfizer Shot
By Michelle Fay Cortez
People who recovered from a bout of Covid-19 during one of the earlier waves of the pandemic appear to have a lower risk of contracting the delta variant than those who got two doses of the vaccine from Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-27/previous-covid-prevents-delta-infection-better-than-pfizer-shot


16 posted on 08/28/2021 6:30:14 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: SeekAndFind

The church is now a government agency.


18 posted on 08/28/2021 6:39:13 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s hard to claim a religious exemption if you are Catholic clergy working for a Catholic organization and the Pope has said getting vaccinated is an act of love.

Non-Catholic employees might have a better case.


19 posted on 08/28/2021 6:41:56 PM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just as the Pope kowtowed to the Chinese government, he is now kowtowing to the policies of this one too. Is the Pope Catholic? The answer to that is no longer self evident.


21 posted on 08/28/2021 6:43:11 PM PDT by jimwatx
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I can’t imagine that they have people lined up to get jobs working for the archdiocese. Just call their bluff.


22 posted on 08/28/2021 6:45:06 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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Give them a copy of this that was posted by hopefully soon to be governor of Illinois Darren Bailey

EMPLOYERS, INSTITUTIONS, AND ALL PEOPLE IN ILLINOIS MUST ALLOW CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTION TO MANDATED VACCINES AND TESTING

The Health Care Right of Conscience Act provides that employers and institutions in Illinois are forbidden from orally questioning someone about their conscientious objection to health care services. Health care services include vaccination status, because of the law’s broad definition of what health care services are, which includes medication. Vaccines are recognized as medicine, even by the CDC. The law is also clear that employment cannot be conditioned on whether a person has such an objection.

According to the law, health care means any phase of patient care, including but not limited to care or treatment rendered by any person at any public or private location, intended for physical, emotional, and mental well-being.

It is unlawful to discriminate against any applicant based on their conscientious objection to health care (vaccination, and “testing” specifically included), in terms of employment, admission to or participation in any programs for which they would otherwise be eligible, or to discriminate in relation thereto, in any other manner.

The language in the Act is so broad that it prohibits any person from discriminating against any other person, in any way (specifically including hiring, licensing, promotion, or any privilege), because of their conscientious refusal to receive health care (a vaccine or testing).

This law supercedes all law in Illinois that is inconsistent with it. That means that not even Lori Lightfoot, JB Pritzker, a concert venue, or a grocery store can condition services or entry, or anything else upon vaccination status without an exception for conscientious objectors.

Tip: To articulate a religious exemption to mandated testing, the Bible verses Matthew 9:12 and Mark 7:21-23 may be helpful to articulate your objection.

The first comment on this post includes a link for more information.

Pertinent sections of the Act:

(745 ILCS 70/7) (from Ch. 111 1/2, par. 5307)
Sec. 7. Discrimination by employers or institutions. It shall be unlawful for any public or private employer, entity, agency, institution, official or person, including but not limited to, a medical, nursing or other medical training institution, to deny admission because of, to place any reference in its application form concerning, to orally question about, to impose any burdens in terms or conditions of employment on, or to otherwise discriminate against, any applicant, in terms of employment, admission to or participation in any programs for which the applicant is eligible, or to discriminate in relation thereto, in any other manner, on account of the applicant’s refusal to receive, obtain, accept, perform, counsel, suggest, recommend, refer, assist or participate in any way in any forms of health care services contrary to his or her conscience.

(745 ILCS 70/5) (from Ch. 111 1/2, par. 5305)
Sec. 5. Discrimination. It shall be unlawful for any person, public or private institution, or public official to discriminate against any person in any manner, including but not limited to, licensing, hiring, promotion, transfer, staff appointment, hospital, managed care entity, or any other privileges, because of such person’s conscientious refusal to receive, obtain, accept, perform, assist, counsel, suggest, recommend, refer or participate in any way in any particular form of health care services contrary to his or her conscience.

(745 ILCS 70/2) (from Ch. 111 1/2, par. 5302)
Sec. 2. Findings and policy. The General Assembly finds and declares that people and organizations hold different beliefs about whether certain health care services are morally acceptable. It is the public policy of the State of Illinois to respect and protect the right of conscience of all persons who refuse to obtain, receive or accept, or who are engaged in, the delivery of, arrangement for, or payment of health care services and medical care whether acting individually, corporately, or in association with other persons; and to prohibit all forms of discrimination, disqualification, coercion, disability or imposition of liability upon such persons or entities by reason of their refusing to act contrary to their conscience or conscientious convictions in providing, paying for, or refusing to obtain, receive, accept, deliver, pay for, or arrange for the payment of health care services and medical care. It is also the public policy of the State of Illinois to ensure that patients receive timely access to information and medically appropriate care.

(745 ILCS 70/3) (from Ch. 111 1/2, par. 5303)
Sec. 3. Definitions. As used in this Act, unless the context clearly otherwise requires:
(a) “Health care” means any phase of patient care, including but not limited to, testing; diagnosis; prognosis; ancillary research; instructions; family planning, counselling, referrals, or any other advice in connection with the use or procurement of contraceptives and sterilization or abortion procedures; medication; surgery or other care or treatment rendered by a physician or physicians, nurses, paraprofessionals or health care facility, intended for the physical, emotional, and mental well-being of persons; or an abortion as defined by the Reproductive Health Act;
(b) “Physician” means any person who is licensed by the State of Illinois under the Medical Practice Act of 1987;
(c) “Health care personnel” means any nurse, nurses’ aide, medical school student, professional, paraprofessional or any other person who furnishes, or assists in the furnishing of, health care services;
(d) “Health care facility” means any public or private hospital, clinic, center, medical school, medical training institution, laboratory or diagnostic facility, physician’s office, infirmary, dispensary, ambulatory surgical treatment center or other institution or location wherein health care services are provided to any person, including physician organizations and associations, networks, joint ventures, and all other combinations of those organizations;
(e) “Conscience” means a sincerely held set of moral convictions arising from belief in and relation to God, or which, though not so derived, arises from a place in the life of its possessor parallel to that filled by God among adherents to religious faiths;


24 posted on 08/28/2021 6:48:12 PM PDT by Maudeen (https://thereishopeinJesus.com/)
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The Archdiocese of Chicago this week announced all employees and clergy will be required to get vaccinated against COVID-19. While people will have an opportunity to request a medical exemption, religious objections will not be considered.


This is insane!!! Church not considering a religious exemption?!!?


25 posted on 08/28/2021 6:50:40 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (If I wanted to live in China, I would move there!)
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*ping*


26 posted on 08/28/2021 6:55:48 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (DEFEAT THE COUP D'ETAT BY THE STALINAZI DERP STATE !)
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I suggest all those Priests simply refuse. Tell that wannabe dictator to take a long walk off a short pier. Tell their congregants that they will meet with all of them elsewhere. The truly faithful will support them.


27 posted on 08/28/2021 7:01:11 PM PDT by ocrp1982 ( Bibicly)
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Wait, you mean the jab that DOESN'T stop the spread of said virus, even if fully jabbed?
28 posted on 08/28/2021 7:05:29 PM PDT by matt04 ( )
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“Following the lead of Pope Francis....”

Well, that’s your problem right there, Blase.

BTW, for those who don’t know, Cupich transferred to Chicago from Portland after the death of Cardinal Francis George.


29 posted on 08/28/2021 7:06:32 PM PDT by twoputt
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Do you have to be Catholic to work there? If not, don’t they have to honor a religious exemption?


31 posted on 08/28/2021 7:41:36 PM PDT by alternatives? (y along. )
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Insisting on only the FDA approved vax (Comirnaty) might hold them off a bit.

I don’t believe there is much of it available in the U S


33 posted on 08/28/2021 8:23:02 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Back after a long hiatus. Now mygrandkidsgrandma)
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