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Friday Fun with Nature - Woolly Caterpillar

Posted on 11/12/2021 6:20:56 PM PST by Jamestown1630

My husband saw today what he swears was a ‘woolly bear’ caterpillar (Pyrrharctia isabella) – but it had no brown band, it was all black.

I suggested to him that it might be another species that looks similar, but he was adamant – he grew up in rural Central Pennsylvania, and this time of year they saw them all over the place, and he denies that its spines were anything like those of the Giant Leopard or any other one around these parts that we could find pictured.

The legend is that the width of the brown bar on the Woolly Bear indicates what the coming Winter will be like – the more narrow it is, the more harsh the Winter. But there are indications that the original research suggesting this was flawed, and that the differences in the width of the brown bar could have to do with how many times the critter has molted.

But none of that explains an entirely black one in Maryland.

The Hagerstown Town and Country Amanack used to have a ‘Woolly Bear’ contest every year, but they ceased it about six years ago. However, their prognosicator is predicting a particularly harsh Winter for most of Maryland.

Does anyone know what species this all-black caterpillar may have been? It was seen just a few miles Northeast of DC, in Maryland. I’ve never seen one that didn’t have at least some width of brown in the middle of the back.

This is a fun guy/channel for Nature stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da1CQs1AK4Q

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbGNToDnkiNxCDOAxud03mQ

(I chose 'poetry' as one of the topics, because I was struck by this statement on the 'topics' list: "Poetry is important. No less than science, it seeks a hold upon reality, and the closeness of its approach is the test of its success." Babette Deutsch (1895–1982), U.S. poet.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Poetry; Weather
KEYWORDS: caterpillar; weather; winter; woolybear; woolyworm
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1 posted on 11/12/2021 6:20:56 PM PST by Jamestown1630
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To: Jamestown1630

All black means a cold winter, even below the Mason-Dixon.


2 posted on 11/12/2021 6:23:13 PM PST by eyedigress (Trump is my President! )
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To: eyedigress

I live in NC and we have all black woollys all over


3 posted on 11/12/2021 6:25:53 PM PST by struggle
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To: All

I caught mine smoking a hookah, pray tell what does that mean?


4 posted on 11/12/2021 6:28:10 PM PST by BipolarBob (I had to change my homepage because it was embellished somewhat. Apologies to all.)
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To: Jamestown1630

I have always been fond of those fuzzy little creatures :-)


5 posted on 11/12/2021 6:29:37 PM PST by Bobalu (Figure out what you like, learn enough to be dangerous, and then start fiddling around)
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To: Jamestown1630

Always heard a hard, cold winter. At least from the old timers in Kentucky.


6 posted on 11/12/2021 6:30:04 PM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: struggle

Same in east Tennessee...seen all black ones with my own eyes...had one in the palm of my hand.


7 posted on 11/12/2021 6:30:59 PM PST by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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To: Bobalu

And you can handle them. They’re not venemous to most people - but be careful with other caterpillars!


8 posted on 11/12/2021 6:31:06 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

I’m from Michigan. I used to see a lot of yellow and white caterpillers, but never one like that with black and red.
As a kid, I used to catch them and put them in a long empty Nestea jar with some leaves. Just to watch for a while.
Some of them would end up forming a coccoon for the winter.
Look but don’t touch the woolies.

Woolies give you the Willies!


9 posted on 11/12/2021 6:31:40 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Jamestown1630

It is a different species, the caterpillar of the giant zebra moth:

https://entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatures/MISC/MOTHS/Hypercompe_scribonia.htm

The regular banded woolly worm aka woolly bear grows up to be a giant Isabella moth:

https://entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatures/MISC/MOTHS/Hypercompe_scribonia.htm

I saw one of the black ones last year and wondered the same, so I looked it up. Glad it did not foretell a never-ending winter!


10 posted on 11/12/2021 6:32:55 PM PST by CatHerd (Not a newbie - lost my password)
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To: CatHerd

Oops, second link was supposed to be

https://www.almanac.com/woolly-bear-caterpillars-and-weather-prediction


11 posted on 11/12/2021 6:33:57 PM PST by CatHerd (Not a newbie - lost my password)
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To: Jamestown1630

I’ve seen an all black caterpillar. He objected to calling Kamala Harris black.


12 posted on 11/12/2021 6:34:19 PM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: BipolarBob

Long winter of gardening?


13 posted on 11/12/2021 6:35:42 PM PST by mcshot (OMG! Really? WTF! I don't think we're OK. Is that the drain I see? Oh noes!)
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To: who knows what evil?; WKUHilltopper; struggle; eyedigress

My husband is pleased that others agree; I’ve just never seen one...

I guess we’d better hunker down, and put in plenty of fire wood.


14 posted on 11/12/2021 6:36:01 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: mcshot

Too much Lewis Carroll.


15 posted on 11/12/2021 6:37:26 PM PST by BipolarBob (I had to change my homepage because it was embellished somewhat. Apologies to all.)
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To: BipolarBob

It means that your caterpillar is erudite and widely- and interestingly-read.


16 posted on 11/12/2021 6:38:34 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: CatHerd

I showed that to him. The one he saw looked nothing like it.


17 posted on 11/12/2021 6:39:47 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: CatHerd

Here’s a question, I wonder if they always cross a road in the same direction? I’ve never noticed.

FReegards


18 posted on 11/12/2021 6:43:35 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: Jamestown1630

It did not look all black like this one?

https://entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatures/MISC/MOTHS/Hypercompe_scribonia.htm

Hmm. Mystery then!


19 posted on 11/12/2021 6:44:33 PM PST by CatHerd (Not a newbie - lost my password)
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To: CatHerd

Grrr. Messed up the link again.

https://entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatures/MISC/MOTHS/Hypercompe_scribonia03.jpg


20 posted on 11/12/2021 6:47:27 PM PST by CatHerd (Not a newbie - lost my password)
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