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Any and all typographical errors above are the sole result of my spelling and editing ineptitude with some cold Hamm's thrown in.
1 posted on 12/04/2021 4:50:53 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Thank you. Good post.


2 posted on 12/04/2021 4:58:00 PM PST by FryingPan101 (Dittohead- Circa 1989)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

let it go. he’s dead, Jim


3 posted on 12/04/2021 5:05:00 PM PST by devane617 (RUN FOR LOCAL ELECTED OFFICE! COUNCIL,SCHOOL BOARD, ETC.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Time and life does not permit me to watch this at this time. Can we get a cliff notes version of the conclusions?


4 posted on 12/04/2021 5:05:02 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Never do anything illegal, when you are doing something illegal. )
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Poppy Bush was on the grassy knoll!


5 posted on 12/04/2021 5:08:58 PM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: Fester Chugabrew

I wonder if he still has a crush on Caroline “air head “ Kennedy?


6 posted on 12/04/2021 5:09:14 PM PST by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.p)
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The Deep State is willing and able to take out presidents which they deem to be a threat. I can think of one or two times this has actually happened.


8 posted on 12/04/2021 5:15:09 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Alec Baldwin has killed more people than the Jan 6 protesters. And he will serve less jail time.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

If he was about Caroline Kennedy’s age at that time, he’s probably still about her age now.


13 posted on 12/04/2021 5:33:35 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Read the book Fatal Error by Menninger, a ballistics expert.

There were two different bullets types that hit JFK that caused two different types of injury. The first shot fired by Oswald hit the pavement. The second went through JFK’s neck area - some argue he could have survived that shot. The shot that exploded his head was a different bullet from a different gun. That gun is believed to be from the Secret Service detail immediately behind the POTUS vehicle. Agent grabbed the gun after he heard the shot from the floor of the car. Pulled the trigger as he was raising the gun. Secret Service won’t confirm anything, including the name of the agent even though there is a photo of him in the car behind the POTUS.

To me this makes a lot of sense based on the ballistics. Hence, there are at least two major two scandals that would rock the federal givernment. The 1st is that the public report by Warren Commission with its very distinguished names ... either lied, purposely ignored evidence, or were grossly incompetent. It was “best” for the nation [”givernment”] to pin everything on Oswald who was [conveniently] executed by a mafiaso with terminal cancer and brain issues. To acknowledge that the SS fired the definitely fatal shot would be a game changer.

The second scandal is CIA’s connections to Oswald. The Commission may be implicated here or was compromised by the CIA as well.

This might explain why final disclosure won’t be made until everyone living in 1963 is no longer breathing and above ground.


14 posted on 12/04/2021 5:35:23 PM PST by Susquehanna Patriot
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anybody that is a gun guy and is in possession of the demonstrated facts knows that Kennedy was not shot by the rifle and bullets in question. I have been at the window at the 6th floor.

Any shooter would have taken the *much* easier shot BEFORE the turn. Why? because as the target directly approaches you it is getting bigger, and there is no left/right deviation. You literally are in a perfect position for an easy shot.

The *undisputed* angle and timing would NEVER be your choice. the angle, and the additional left/right motion make the shot really tough, and combine that with supposedly 3 quick shots from a bolt-action rifle with a questionable low power scope.

BTW, when tested, the scope was misaligned, they had to resight the scope to be able to hit a test target! And a almost pristine bullet did all that work, dropped out on a stretcher in the Parkland hospital? What? If you believe that, I hope you never are on a jury. You would have found Rittenhouse guilty.


18 posted on 12/04/2021 5:58:23 PM PST by BereanBrain
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Ive read that the zapgruder film was edited and the edited version has the car in motion from start to finish.

The real version has the car stopping, then the rifles firing


31 posted on 12/04/2021 6:20:42 PM PST by South Dakota (Patriotism is the new terrorism )
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1968 House Select Committee on Assassination concluded a conspiracy.


32 posted on 12/04/2021 6:24:48 PM PST by A strike (Public Health 21st century murder by government. DoctorFauxiMengeleGates to a TerreHaute gurney now)
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I believe it was a hit ordered by Lyndon Johnson. He managed to lure Kennedy into the Kill Zone under the pretense of Texas being a contested State. It was the only way Johnson could ever become President.


33 posted on 12/04/2021 6:27:56 PM PST by MuttTheHoople (The best slaves put their own chains on )
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the author says the zapruder film is a rohrsach test subject to misinterpretation, but then assumes that the film itself is not altered.

the zapruder film mystery

http://johncostella.com/jfk/intro/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_QIuu6hsAc

another view of interest

everything is a rich man’s trick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk9O9R7hzn8


37 posted on 12/04/2021 6:35:19 PM PST by SteveH (.)
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It’s painful to watch because the lecturer is a boring speaker, makes frequent 5-second pauses, and is monotone to boot, so unless you enjoy squirting lemon juice in your eyes, you’d probably prefer the Cliff Notes version, and this is it.

The speaker takes 40 minutes of irrelevant details to get to the point that despite Zapruder’s claim that he got the entire Kennedy assassination sequence of events on film, there is credible evidence that he didn’t start filming until some seconds after the first shot was fired.

And since the Zapruder film was used (errantly?) as the gold standard for establishing the precise timeline of events in every official investigation, they all also assumed that the first shot was fired some time after the first frame of that segment of film. Which calls to question their conclusions about where the presidential limousine was when the first shot was fired, which muddies all the ballistic investigations concerning where the bullet from the first shot might have ended up.

He does cite some evidence that the first shot (if fired before Zapruder began filming) might have gone wide of the mark before ricocheting off the curbing well down the road and just before the overpass, then grazing the cheek of a spectator standing at the entrance of the underpass.

Which lines up with his presumption that Oswald might have fired just after the presidential limousine passed under a stoplight that was closer to the corner coming off Houston street than any of the official investigations considered. And the shot might have struck a glancing blow off the armature from which the stoplight hung at that corner (which at that instant entered Oswald’s line of fire). This would explain why Oswald managed to hit a man-sized target with two of his shots but didn’t even manage to hit a 20-foot long car with the third, and why no one previously had considered the possibility that the divot in the curb and the cut on the spectator’s cheek might have come from Oswald’s missing bullet.

I also note that the speaker displays a very limited knowledge of firearms and tosses in some ancillary details (RE: Oswald’s Marine marksmanship training and ejection patterns of bolt action rifles) for which there is absolutely NO supporting evidence, yet he states them as indisputable fact.


39 posted on 12/04/2021 6:39:17 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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The Nix Film is available on YouTube. Another nothing burger.


48 posted on 12/04/2021 6:56:09 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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Caroline Kennedy who would have been about my age at that time.

She was 5 days away from her 6th birthday when her father was assassinated. She was born Nov. 27th, 1957. He was assassinated Nov. 22nd, 1963.

50 posted on 12/04/2021 7:02:16 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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Interesting interview of one of the emergency room doctors ( you may have to put on closed caption to hear some of the interviewers questions ):

Uncut Interview - JFK's Emergency Room Doctor : Dr. Robert McClelland

53 posted on 12/04/2021 7:07:19 PM PST by TheCipher (I am a proud member of the LGBT (Let's Go Brandon Trolls ) community)
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Well the House of Representatives in 1978 concluded that there was likely a conspiracy , so yes we need to keep asking what happened .
“He’s dead Jim” and other statements another poster made are foolish.
This was a US President who was murdered, we need to know.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1978/12/31/jfk-king-panel-finds-conspiracy-likely-in-slayings/39e3aa3b-bc8e-44ed-a184-05477097ebc8/


57 posted on 12/04/2021 7:18:51 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Leave me alone, I have no incriminating evidence on the Clinton's )
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Sorry, but you haven’t studied the head wound and the force and direction of skull fragments per testimony without film. Indicates a shot from the knoll fence area. You are correct that shot straight was ideal, but they knew rifle was bad and they needed it to point to oswald. Book bldg would have been a poor retreat for real shooters.


58 posted on 12/04/2021 7:32:26 PM PST by Mlheureux
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Abraham Zapruder: The Man Behind the Film of JFK's ...
Abraham Zapruder (left): The Man Behind the Film was a Ukrainian-born American clothing manufacturer who died August 30, 1970, Dallas, Texas.
60 posted on 12/04/2021 7:49:47 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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