Posted on 01/15/2022 4:47:49 AM PST by Libloather
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. - Four inmates at a northwest Arkansas jail sued the facility and its doctor Thursday after they said were unknowingly prescribed ivermectin to treat Covid-19 despite health officials’ warnings that the anti-parasitic drug shouldn’t be used for that purpose.
The American Civil Liberties Union of Arkansas filed the lawsuit in federal court on behalf of the detainees against the Washington County jail, Washington County Sheriff Tim Helder and Dr. Robert Karas. Helder in August revealed that ivermectin had been prescribed to inmates to treat their Covid-19.
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This is special. Suing because you were treated with an FDA APPROVED drug in an off label usage like millions of others in history. You recover. You live. What are the damages? Discovery? Dr. Fraudci going to testify on behalf of the incarcerated?
They were getting better care than most...
Let me guess ... they held down and forced to take it the Rx after the model prisoners politely asked to be informed what medication they were being given to treat CCP virus? The only response they were given was to “Shut up and do what you are told you #$%!s. I am your $^!#$@%^!% conscience.” Sounds like similar approach to an OSHA emergency regulation that I seem to recall for some reason was in the news this week.
My theory is ACLU doesn’t care about the prisoners as they usually don’t. It is a sideways left wing effort to discredit the use of Ivermectin. Your point is well taken.
The plaintiffs are living proof Ivermectin works.
yes, they wanted to do nothing until they had to be hospitalized per the govt edicts
“And they’re still alive to tell about it? Pretty amazing.”
Two things stand out.
They are still alive and if in good health this should negate the law suite.
Prisoners get better medical care than law abiding citizens.
So this is an awfully sticky wicket for those who support the use of ivermectin. If you read the complaint it’s not there they were given ivermectin, rather it was administered without their knowledge or consent.
On one hand those who are most vocally against the vaccine are advancing the argument that there is not informed consent and the vaccines are not approved. The vaccines are approved fully and we’re approved under EUA. The argument extends to Nuremberg code violations (which is preposterous) because when you are vaccinated and boosted there was a rather large informed consent package.
It is a bit of a misdirection to say ivermectin is FDA approved. It is for the treatment of parasites. It is being used off label when used for its potential Covid benefits. I suspect that if we dug (and we can certainly see what people are saying here) are those getting ivermectin prescribed being informed it is not FDA approved for Covid and being used off label? I am guessing not.
So the question is will there be intellectual consistency here with this story. If the fact is true that these prisoners were given a medication without their knowledge then it must follow the medication was used experimentally on them without their consent (off label non approved indication with conflicting literature as to its conclusive effectiveness) and we shall see if the usual folks call for sanctions and legal consequences. It is an apple to apple analogy. We shall see if intellectual honesty now exists.
This is an incorrect statement. If you believe there 99.6% of patients survived which is something the ivermectin proponents are always saying then you cannot say this is proof that ivermectin works. To use the usual argument they survived incidentally to the ivermectin not because is it.
Prisoners get better medical care than law abiding citizens
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Yes as well as the congress critters.
Speaking of “law abiding citizens”, I am in the middle of a movie called Law Abiding Citizen with Gerard Butler.
Yikes, it action packed with a great plot about a man whose wife and daughter were brutally murdered.
This Law Abiding Citizen takes his revenge in intriguing ways.
I like to imagine Fauci, Biden and other accomplices who forced their diabolical control on Americans to suffer a similar fate.
Same goes for the vacks then eh?
This would be all the more hypocritical if they were on death row.
To use the usual argument they survived incidentally to the ivermectin not because is it.
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Fair enough.
Then let’s move on with this whole charade.
This virus is survivable with a 99% survivable rate.
It is not an emergency or a dangerous threat to folks who are generally healthy.
Those who are a risk, do whatever the hell you want to do.
Those who are not, leave us the hell alone you control freak.
bkmk
I don't believe an EUA is a full approval.
If one says most people, and especially the young, “survived” a Covid injection — somewhere in the same statistical range as your number above — is said to be proof that mRNA technology “works,” then your next step in the argument holds.
In your words with a simple word replacement, “To use the usual argument they survived incidentally to the mRNA injections not because is it.”
The phase three, clinical trials continue on an experimental basis, and therefore as one is injected with an mRNA product one “consents” to be used as a subject in said experiment.
“To use the usual argument they survived incidentally to the mRNA injections not because is it.”
This reply holds to "Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will."
They got treated like Congress.
Seems to me the law-abiding public oughta be suing those jailbirds.
You have failed to answer the question. The vaccines came with informed consent. No one is sneaking up on people roving them a vaccine without their knowledge. These prisoners were not told and had no consent. Informed or otherwise
It is concerning that several have said they got better so that should mean there is no problem. If that isn’t the first step in the slippery slope to tyranny, I don’t know what is.
I am simply asking will those who scream at the top of the lungs that vaccines are without consent and experimental (they are not) take the same position that this is Mengele like medicine and there is no consent for experimental (off label) therapy? It appears not. It appears the answer is as long as you agree with it your will can be imposed without choice on someone else.
How is this different than a vaccine mandate. Or horrifyingly worse. How is this different than getting vaccinated without consent by a sudden attack.
These four inmates were not told they were getting ivermectin. They had no choice.
I have always advocated for choices. I absolutely disagree with mandatory vaccine. Do you disagree that patients should not be given something without a choice. Everyone who has been vaccinated has made a choice to roll up their sleeve and receive it. These four people did not.
of course they don’t.
Has the ACLU stepped up for the J6 political prisoners?? Have they fought against the vax mandates? Of course they haven’t.
Thank you for your response. There are incorrect statements. Do you not agree that there is FDA approval of moderns and Pfizer for the purpose of vaccination against Covid 19? Do you further not agree that everyone who has had a vaccine had a choice in it (they chose to roll up their sleeve and receive it)? Do you agree that there are not administrations of the vaccine by stealth? Do you agree that the complaint is that these four people had no knowledge they were receiving ivermectin? Do you agree that ivermectin is NOT approved for the treatment of covid and when used it is being used off label?
I was going to post but it’s people like you who keep me from doing so because your remarks are so on point. It’s like I think of something to say and you’re already on it. Stay away from me, okay. Outta my head, dangit!
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