WORLDOMETER COVID-19 Deaths in USA 2/1/2022: 2,780 with 264,693 new cases

Worldometer ^ | February 1, 2022

[SaxxonWoods]

Wow, Colorado has only 18% of hospital beds occupied by COVID/suspected COVID patients.

33% of ventilators are in use, down from 39%. During the last big wave they hit 49%.

[SaxxonWoods]

Owen lives to talk doom and never talks anything else but doom.

[Paul R.]

Probably I should have said “likely would not predict ours well at all.”

I note that SA’s resolved cases CFR is over 2.7% AFTER Omicron (assuming Omicron is pretty well done there.) I can only estimate at best what that number was just B4 Omicron. 3.5%, maybe? That would lead toward the possibility that maybe Delta took out nearly all the fatally vulnerable (and likely to be exposed) people in SA before Omicron even popped up.

Something that is unrecognized is that we DO have a lot of people in the US in long term recovery from prior variants, and sometimes those recoveries regress. One of my wife’s best friends was readmitted to the hospital for COVID complications twice after going home: One of those readmissions was pretty serious. It took the friend a year before she could go outside in cold weather (Mid-South cold weather, not northern US cold weather). Obviously, with that kind of damage, things can go wrong...

That said, I don’t think that accounts for 2k+ fatalities a day. It’s probably significant, though. And I also note another oddity in SA’s numbers vs. ours: They show few unresolved cases. We have 30 million!

Something else, too: Even with increased likely underreporting of our Omicron cases, our Omicron case spike (area under curve including likely future cases) dwarfs our Delta case spike. SA’s Delta case curve area clearly beats out their Omicron curve. So... While Omicron’s raw infectiousness is much higher than Delta, in total, in SA, Omicron’s effective infectiousness over the course of the wave was LOWER than their Delta wave. This has a whole host of ramifications.

Then there is the issue of the younger, slimmer population remaining after Delta, and perhaps better natural resistance in it, even discounting the demographics, before any of this started.

I can go on. ;-)

Hmmm... Perhaps I should have said “SA’s overall experience in many ways is not predictive of ours.”

France, however, is quite interesting, in a tragic way. They are consistently running MORE fatalities from Omicron than Delta. Over double, now. :-(

I suggest a “relook”. Not that making that suggestion gives me any pleasure. :-(

[Paul R.]

That’s encouraging! Random chance or doing something right?

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- WORLDOMETER COVID-19

As of 1 February 2022, the global "mortality rate" is:

( 5,706,714 "worldometer official" global deaths / 7,924,043,134 global population ) x 100 = 0.072 %

( 5,674,493 "JHU official" global deaths / 7,924,043,134 global population ) x 100 = 0.072 %

While nationally:

( 913,924 "worldometer official" US deaths / 331,002,651 Americans ) x 100 = 0.276 %

Proof yet again that the Fauci-led NIH, remdesivir-poisoned CDC and mRNA-loving FDA pandemic response is among the WORST in the world.

How much worse, comparatively? Almost FOUR times worse.

Trust the data? Trust the site?

The beat goes on....

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "France, however, is quite interesting...."

France, as of 2 February 2022,

( 131,312 "worldometer official" deaths in France / 65,273,511 French population ) x 100 = 0.201 % mortality rate over two years of data.

Slightly more than two-tenths of one percent. In over two years since the Chinese provided the first data to Drosten in order to code the RT-PCR for Covid in January of 2020, two months BEFORE the WHO declared a pandemic.

[Paul R.]

Flu hasn’t “disappeared” this season. There are even a few hotspots.

That said, Flu cases are low nationally, but, we’ve seen how more infectious variants of COVID drive out less infectious versions of COVID.

I would also observe that flu spread behaves rather differently than COVID. Flu is most infectious when one is feeling pretty bad. COVID is exceedingly infectious before one is feeling bad, and therefor one infected is much more likely to be out effectively spreading COVID, than if they got the Flu.

Further, modest mitigation slows down flu spread a lot more than it slows down the much more infections COVID (even “original” COVID.

And, speaking of behavior, human behavior is likely the biggest factor of all. Pre-COVID, most people with a sniffle would go about their activities. Now, most people DON’T. Case in point: When Omicron cases really started spiking high here (Mid-South USA, quite conservative area), attendance at my wife’s fairly large church plummeted. I mean, it REALLY plummeted. Attendance for a couple weeks there was 50% at best. Asking around, most of those missing were either ill or at a minimum had tested COVID-positive and / or had an immediate family member or close contact ill or positive. N95’s were the most numerous I’ve seen so far, esp. among parishioners over age 50 or so. Social distancing was kind of automatic, given all the empty seating space available. That kind of thing alone knocks back flu a lot.

[Paul R.]

Irrelevant to this discussion.

But, if you want comparisons, here’s one.

In all of WW2, we lost to the war (depending slightly on source) ~406,000 people killed. 2 years of that (averaged) would be 0.149% of our then population (in that 2 years).

No biggie, right?

[zeestephen]

2,800 Covid deaths in one day?

Where does Worldometer get its data?

According to the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), the weekly Covid death toll has been below 10,000 (less than 1,500 deaths per day) for the last fifteen weeks.

NCHS is the final word on cause of death in the USA. Almost 100% of USA death certificates are filed electronically with NCHS within one month of an actual death.

Worldometer has been claiming 2,000 to 3,000 Covid deaths per day for almost two months, which is almost 2X times higher than NCHS.

[maddog55]

Useless lies brought to you by the covidian cultist.

These look like the same graphs only different names used by the climate cultists for global warming and sea temperature rise!!

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "Irrelevant to the discussion."

Your anointing yourself as "hall monitor" for this or any thread is preposterous.

As to the "discussion," one may conclude a number of things. The first is that comparatively, the Fauci-led response is among the worst in the world, a relevant point to some, if not you.

The WWII comparison is not new to you, but made publicly by vaccine advocate Bill Gates midway through the first of the now over two years of this pandemic. You are repeating as justification the same reasoning. Such reasoning made for economically-devastating lockdowns and attempts at mandates of all sorts, which infringe on basic liberties.

That the Fauci-led pandemic response included the "official" protocol for kidney-lethal remdesivir and also the bureaucratic suppression of all early treatments is relevant. That smear politics was discussed by the pandemic response bureaucrats as a response to disagreements with the "state agenda" is relevant.

The almost daily focus on US pandemic stats from worldometer suggests you and yours believe that site. Relevant to this discussion, it seems.

The overall mortality rate based on that site's published stats says that the worldwide mortality rate is circa 0.072 percent. That places the site's other calculations into some sort of frame.

Trust the site. Trust the data. So you say.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "NCHS is the final word on cause of death in the USA. Almost 100% of USA death certificates are filed electronically with NCHS within one month of an actual death. Worldometer has been claiming 2,000 to 3,000 Covid deaths per day for almost two months, which is almost 2X times higher than NCHS."

Thank you for adding this data point to the discussion.

Taking the lower Worldometer estimate which you cite above, if 2,000 a day was the rate, then the yearly count would been 730,000. When the "data" are found to be estimates and assertions, then the "data" collection and reporting is all the more sullied.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "These look like the same graphs only different names used by the climate cultists for global warming and sea temperature rise...."

Numbers and graphs to message an expected conclusion from those. But language is also interetstng, as a look through the CDC site shows words, far more than numerical data, thrown at so many things.

Here in this little thread, one can look at language use as well. As for example:

From posts numbered 16 and 23.

"probably quite understated"

"assuming"

"I can only estimate"

"lead toward the possibility"

"likely underreporting"

"even discounting the demographics"

The strategy of messaging, for any side in a discussion or debate, is to discount the other while employing "wiggle" words for one's own stance.

[Bob434]

Yeahnthays probably what is going on, folks with long term cases of,covid, and dying from it now that omicron is dominant.

I haven’t heard of France having high numbers of deaths from omicron? I’ll check again, but last I knew (awhile,back) the numbers were low deaths, high numbers of infections)

[That would lead toward the possibility that maybe Delta took out nearly all the fatally vulnerable (and likely to be exposed) people in SA before Omicron even popped up.]]

That could,very well be, good thought.