Posted on 02/18/2022 7:08:29 PM PST by Beave Meister
Don’t worry the US and it’s NATO allies can be trusted….
It should’ve dissolved right after the Warsaw Pact did. I can understand our NATO “allies” wanting to keep it together so we’d continue to pay for their defense. But for us, it no longer served a purpose. At least not an America First purpose.
The Military Industrial Complex must be fed the blood and treasure of America.
Ukraine can join NATO when Cuba joins the CSTO/SCO military alliance against us.
Which is never.
The E.U. should have filled the power vacuum after we've dissolved NATO. Then they will be on the hook for defense.
So then Russia got what it wanted from Biden.
It just your children being fed into the maw of the beast. You can always make more, comrade. /sarc
Remember, one of the reasons for NATO is to make sure we don’t have another Germany wanting to take over Europe. We broke the cycle. No one wants that again.
The document is from 30 years ago. We reneged.
You mean like the Russians who have lied and broken every single arms agreement they have ever signed since 1991, which has led to them having the most advanced and powerful nuclear force in the world with more nukes than the USA, the UK and France combined?
Why are we even worried about a "recently discovered paper" according to Russian state media, apparently hidden after all these years (and even denied by Gorbachov, who says there were NO discussions about NATO expansion in those days), but not about the way Russia has taken advantage of Western weakness to militarize their borders with enough Nukes and weaponry to sweet through all of Europe?
But if the United States allegedly had a verbal agreement--that apparently was never made into any kind of signed agreement or treaty--that it violated, who gives a shit about what Russia has done to change the balance off power in the world!
BTW, the Putinists on this forum constantly tell us what goes on in Russia and Ukraine is none of our business. And yet they sure do spend a LOT of time spreading Russian bullshit and propaganda to justify not only the annihilation of Ukraine, but even want Poland stomped on, since Poland's entry into NATO "violated agreements!" with Russia by them joining in 1997!
It’s behind a paywall, but Der Spiegel really did run this story:
It is not (yet?) on their international version, but they ran this a few days ago, perhaps as a lead-up to this:
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I find it hard to believe the Russians would accept that comical sh!t at face value. The fact that they didn’t insist on getting anything in writing is probably a good indication that they had no leverage to oppose it.
Hey, I can't read them all.
Thanks for posting, it’s now making sense why Russia is so pissed.
If the MIC wants a showdown with Russia, do you think it would make a difference if the agreement was in writing?
The invasion from our southern border is nothing like the one Russia is facing in their east.
How come Russia is worrying about the non-threat from Ukraine, when they have lost control of entire regions to the Chinese?
I'm pretty sure their concern is the US bellying its way into their safe space.
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