Posted on 03/25/2022 4:39:04 AM PDT by RandFan
Then everything posted on this site is unproven propaganda if you don’t witness it with your own eyes.
The people who disagree with you on an issue are just as much "the people" as you are.
I am aware of what he had, but they were useless without delivery systems.
What I find surprising is the number of Freepers that on one hand call the press liars about all things Trump but are willing to believe the press when they report on the atrocities of the Russians, that the Ukrainians are defeating the Russians on several fronts and that Ukrainian government is as pure as the wind driven snow.
Those who served during Vietnam remember the rhetoric of that day, and we are hearing the same mantra now. I am sorry that I do not trust the current regime in Washington, nor the lying media (print, electronic, video, etc.) who have knowingly lied to us before in order to enforce their narratives. They are guilty of journalistic malpractice.
I’ve seen those who argue for staying out of this, pointing out the propaganda from both sides, reporting on the biolabs in Ukraine, etc, mischaracterized as Putin fanboys, there are some here that are clearly McCainiacs, and there are undoubtedly those for Putin and for Zelenskyy and they can knock themselves out for all I care.
The effort to demonize the Iraq war is pure radical anti-Republican nonsense.
Saddam Hussein was not a hero or champion.
Putin is not a hero or champion.
Donald trump recognizes and recognized that Putin was not a hero.
Trump ordered the killing of 200 Russian soldiers which no US President had ever done.
American military actions against communism in Vietnam and Baathist Iraq were vastly morally superior the politics and forces they were fighting.
It’s sad to see how far academic brainwashing has erased these hard facts.
No thanks. Gutfeld is wrong.
“...The first link you [not me personally] provide is an anonymous opinion from 2012. The second link is unproven propaganda from the Pentagon. Please, no more #FakeWars...”
Which reminds me... I have to stream “Wag The Dog” soon. The first time (and last) I saw the video I was probably half mashed during a post holiday last get-together movie-thon before everybody headed home.
I can’t speak to Vietnam but I can certainly weigh in on Iraq.
If you think there was any morally sound basis to invade a country and topple a government in a Middle East sh!t-hole just to protect Islamic royal families in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, you’re delusional.
I still remember the comical stories back in the early 1990s about U.S. military personnel stationed in Saudi Arabia who were being told not to openly display religious symbols like crosses or stars of David — because the U.S. didn’t want to offend our “hosts” in Saudi Arabia. After reading that sh!t I couldn’t imagine why any principled, religious American would ever sign up for the armed forces.
Putin is not a hero, nor was Saddam, but that doesn’t mean the neocon military interventionists who pushed us into a war in Iraq were true Republicans.
Remember the days when the media was aghast that Reagan called Russia the evil empire and joked “we start bombing in 5 minutes”?
Remember when the media fawned over every “Can’t we all just get along with Russia” story - e.g. Samantha Smith, the little girl who wrote Yuri Andropov and got invited to take a Potemkin village tour (poor kid later on died in a plane crash along with her dad)?
Since the 60s Canada has supported different countries that we are politically maligned with. I first noticed back in the late 60s Canada traded with communist North Vietnam and continued to trade with during our conflict there.
They’ve done that since WWII, and here is just another example of Canada taking uranium from Iraq which supposedly didn’t exist...
I did not say they weren’t.
You know who isn’t included in “we the people”? ILLEGAL ALIENS.
You want the same buffoon who designed the Trashcanistan departure to run this war?
What behavior or comments would you consider a Putin fanboy?
I was reading an interesting critique of the final days of the Afghan army a few months ago. Some of which I recall is that shortly before the fall, American advisors had disappeared, all air support had been pulled away, their source of pay had been switched so that wages/salaries were late and sometimes never showed. In short, morale was in the pits.
Then the Taliban had infiltrated the cities, towns and villages and caused problems. But to top it off the Taliban approached the Afghan army commandants of the cities and offered each a huge pot of money to lay own their arms. The Taliban seemed to have been heavily financed. There was more I don’t recall.
He probably went through what I did - friends yelling at me over Bush and Iraq, I even had a threat or two, general unpleasantness with leftist maniacs etc.
Agree 100%.
I think at the end of the day, the point is, we don’t entirely know what’s going on. We have the same Remember the Maine, 2nd Tonkin Bay, and WMD incidents feeling here. And this is regardless of whether you served or not, you can still be skeptical of a war that costs billions of dollars and thousands of lives.
Maybe the man has regrets about his past actions of a supporter of the war. Being antiwar doesn’t make you less of a conservative. John Quincy Adams spoke of America has a city on a hill, a champion of freedom everywhere, but a fighter for it only at home.
We just saw the results of the war in Afghanistan and even those most obnoxious liberal should be questioning the leftist (D’s and Rs) mantra of go to war. We just don’t know what’s going on and maybe prudence should be our guiding hand.
That is how I read his quote.
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