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To: Boogieman
Lol, sure, the Democrats magically were able to mind control Putin and force him to invade another country.

It's all about you, Skippy. The world did not begin until you were born, and will end when you die. There is no such thing as history, just the opinions you pull out of your wazoo aperture.


20 posted on 05/06/2022 7:33:32 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Your bat-excrement crazy mental illness does not impose an obligation upon me to deny reality.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Lol, even your graphics destroy your own argument, since you show that the Baltic states and Poland, who have been NATO members since almost immediately after the fall of the Soviet Union, ALREADY share a direct border with Russia.

So if NATO really wanted to invade Russia, which they do not and never have, they could already do it, and could have done it decades ago. Not to mention that Ukraine is not a NATO member, and really didn’t have a serious chance of becoming a NATO member until Russia decides to invade the country and by extension threaten all the neutral unaligned countries nearby.

For all your pretty pictures, the only ACTUAL aggressor in this scenario is Russia. NATO has invaded zero European countries since their intervention in the Yugoslavian civil war some 2 1/2 decades ago. Russia has invaded at least a half-dozen.


38 posted on 05/06/2022 8:05:13 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

while you’re criticizing others for denying history, don’t forget to criticize yourself

2 years before 2014, there was NO ethnic problems in the region. But there WAS oil & gas reserves to be exploited. You seem to have completely forgotten that in 2012 oil & gas reserves were being explored by Exxon and western oil companies. This war is about oil & gas reserves. The last time we had an oppressive regime invade their neighbor over oil & gas, an international coalition kicked his ass back to Iraq.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4050958/posts

also:

Why Russia wants to invade Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If61baWF4GE

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4050958/posts

The Russians weren’t even interested in eastern Ukraine until oil was found there. Their interest is simply in raping that country. Russia gets 60% of its revenues from oil exports. Europe gets 40% of their oil from Russia.

In 2012 massive oil and gas reserves were found in Crimea. Crimea signed a $10 billion exploration contracts with Shell and Chevron to develop the new found oil and gas fields. These oil and gas products would compete in Europe with Russia’s oil and gas, reducing Russia’s oil revenues, which we recall amount to 60% of their total GDP. Russia annexed Crimea in 2014, cancelling the contracts with Shell and Chevron.

But Ukraine still had massive reserves in, you guessed it, Donetsk and Luhansk, and other areas East of the Dnieper River. In 2019, Energy Secretary Rick Perry visited Ukraine, and soon after Ukraine awarded exploration contracts to a consortium of U.S. oil companies. Again, these oil reserves would compete in Europe with Russian oil, so Putin is invading Ukraine to shut down this latest attempt to extract Ukrainian oil and sell it in competition with Russian oil.

This explanation makes more sense to me than the “Putin feels threatened by NATO expansion” excuses for the invasion.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4044221/posts?page=1#1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CmdSzVFSKc

If the Ukes allow some small region in the west to be its own republic, but the OIL belongs to Ukraine, do ya think Pootypoot would allow that? Nope.


44 posted on 05/06/2022 8:18:21 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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