Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

NTSB: Teenage driver in deadly crash had cannabis in system [The driver and her five passengers were all killed.]
Associated Press ^

Posted on 05/07/2022 8:15:27 AM PDT by grundle

Edited on 05/07/2022 9:08:34 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-139 next last
To: grundle

I think the biggest problem here was a teenage driver with four other teenagers in the car whooping it up.


41 posted on 05/07/2022 9:05:34 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Your bat-excrement crazy mental illness does not impose an obligation upon me to deny reality.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Bikkuri

Alcohol has been shown to be far more impairing and aggressive for driving than cannabis in numerous studies. Some studies even show cannabis makes certain people more careful drivers.

Many people who use cannabis don’t use alcohol at all. This TWIN study shows alcohol damage to the brain by age 24 but ZERO for twins that only used cannabis. This is twins, not some BS statistical correlation scientists with an agenda find across a random population. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33726938/

Partaking in substances with friends is older than human history and some animals even do it. If you are going to partake, cannabis is definitely BY FAR the safest option...


42 posted on 05/07/2022 9:05:39 AM PDT by varyouga
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Dilbert San Diego

Whatever impairs your judgement or physical ability is dangerous. Use at your own risk, on your own time and in your own space. Do not inconvenience or imperil others though. That is not only illegal but wrong.

Self-government without self-discipline won’t work. That precludes doing whatever you want to do.


43 posted on 05/07/2022 9:06:53 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: PAR35

Driving while high is dangerous.

Driving while drunk is dangerous.

Do you want to ban alcohol?


44 posted on 05/07/2022 9:10:20 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: varyouga

“Alcohol has been shown to be far more impairing and aggressive for driving than cannabis in numerous studies”

In my stupid teenage and early twenties years I was a good test case.

I was a badly impaired driver using just marijuana.

I was a badly impaired driver using just alcohol.

That is my “study” on the topic.


45 posted on 05/07/2022 9:12:17 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: All

teenagers are poor drivers to start with (as a rule). They get distracted easily (as a rule) and get in relaxed “I’m immortal” when with friends. I know. I used to be one a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away. The pot influence may be negligible or not. Not enough info for that to make a rational conclusion.


46 posted on 05/07/2022 9:12:53 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I never dated Jennifer Gardner because she always asked "What's in your wallet". That's a red flag.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: cgbg
It could be that you're just a bad driver period - whether high or drunk.

just looking at all of the possibilities.

47 posted on 05/07/2022 9:15:03 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I never dated Jennifer Gardner because she always asked "What's in your wallet". That's a red flag.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: rarestia

After coming of age during the 60s and seeing it all in friends and acquantances, I would say that MJ, like alcohol, affects different people, at different ages, differently.

I have very productive intelligent people I know that have used it occasionally for fifty years with no problems. I have other people I know that used it and became unproductive wastes of space for the rest of their lives. Same with alcohol although the recovery from alcohol misuse seems to be very positive and permanent for some.

I don’t think we can predict how it will impact us so I think counseling caution and avoidance is worthwhile.


48 posted on 05/07/2022 9:15:38 AM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: grundle

I want pot banned completely - by the states. But it’s not apparent that marijuana in this driver’s system had any bearing on the accident.

That said, jurisdictions which legalize recreational pot have seen significant increases in auto accidents.


49 posted on 05/07/2022 9:18:08 AM PDT by fwdude (Every time I see someone voluntarily masked in public, I know I'm looking at a vaccinated person.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cgbg

Driving under any impairing substance should be illegal. Especially the countless Rx pills that fully zonk you and police do not even have tests for.

But if someone is going to use something and be stupid enough to drive, cannabis is statistically by far the safest


50 posted on 05/07/2022 9:18:11 AM PDT by varyouga
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: BipolarBob

My “official” driving record was spotless—but in my younger years I was just very lucky that I never caught driving while impaired.

I specifically remember one “driving while high” incident where it seemed the road was swaying from left to right, then right to left, then up to down, then down to up...kinda like driving in a really bad earthquake.


51 posted on 05/07/2022 9:18:43 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: Dilbert San Diego

Pot is a topic that I am in the minority, believing it should always be illegal. I see the damage and cost everywhere from its use. And, no, I don’t see a little as okay, as a comparison to alcohol.


52 posted on 05/07/2022 9:19:45 AM PDT by Reno89519 (FJB. Respect America, Embrace America, Buy American, Hire American.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: PAR35
Let’s all chant in a libertarian singsong voice: But MarIjuANA is a victimless crime!

Driver also had traces of aspirin in her system.

Correlation does not equal causation!

Regards,

53 posted on 05/07/2022 9:20:09 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Bikkuri

We got 8 guys in a VW Bug (one if the old style ones) when I was in HS. Luckily we only had to go about 1 mile.


54 posted on 05/07/2022 9:21:00 AM PDT by Disambiguator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Reno89519

My view is that both marijuana and alcohol are easily abused and potentially very damaging.

While I think they should be legal, I also think that there should be full disclosure about their dangers.


55 posted on 05/07/2022 9:27:01 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]

To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
If several of the others had it, it increases the odds of their have recently consumed it, and thus impairment.

I don't follow. So if you had 10 people in a room and all of them peed in a cup and came up positive for THC, it's reasonable to assume they all toked up recently?

THC binds to fat. The longer you smoke, and the more body fat you retain, the longer detectable THC stays in your system. It's not an accurate indicator of when it was last used, just that it was used sometime in the past.

56 posted on 05/07/2022 9:29:44 AM PDT by rarestia (“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” -Hamilton)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: PAR35

Driving while using substances is the problem here, not the marijuana.

Go talk to any police officer you know and they’ll tell you they’d much rather deal with pot heads then drunks.


57 posted on 05/07/2022 9:33:08 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SES1066

People have known about the risks to life and limb and others when “under the influence” forever. I wonder how many home fall fatalities are due to victim being high or drunk.
Media driven propaganda makes drug taking harmless..(God forbid you eat gluten) . Ignorant people die cause they think psychotropics are safe...


58 posted on 05/07/2022 9:44:39 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Bikkuri

That must have looked like a clown car routine when you all got out.


59 posted on 05/07/2022 9:46:29 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: grundle
I believe that if someone recreationally ingests a drug that voluntarily removes volition or capacity, then any illegal behavior to come out of such an effort should be legally and strictly viewed as “pre-meditated.”
60 posted on 05/07/2022 9:52:01 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-139 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson