Posted on 05/07/2022 8:15:27 AM PDT by grundle
Edited on 05/07/2022 9:08:34 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
I think the biggest problem here was a teenage driver with four other teenagers in the car whooping it up.
Alcohol has been shown to be far more impairing and aggressive for driving than cannabis in numerous studies. Some studies even show cannabis makes certain people more careful drivers.
Many people who use cannabis don’t use alcohol at all. This TWIN study shows alcohol damage to the brain by age 24 but ZERO for twins that only used cannabis. This is twins, not some BS statistical correlation scientists with an agenda find across a random population. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33726938/
Partaking in substances with friends is older than human history and some animals even do it. If you are going to partake, cannabis is definitely BY FAR the safest option...
Whatever impairs your judgement or physical ability is dangerous. Use at your own risk, on your own time and in your own space. Do not inconvenience or imperil others though. That is not only illegal but wrong.
Self-government without self-discipline won’t work. That precludes doing whatever you want to do.
Driving while high is dangerous.
Driving while drunk is dangerous.
Do you want to ban alcohol?
“Alcohol has been shown to be far more impairing and aggressive for driving than cannabis in numerous studies”
In my stupid teenage and early twenties years I was a good test case.
I was a badly impaired driver using just marijuana.
I was a badly impaired driver using just alcohol.
That is my “study” on the topic.
teenagers are poor drivers to start with (as a rule). They get distracted easily (as a rule) and get in relaxed “I’m immortal” when with friends. I know. I used to be one a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away. The pot influence may be negligible or not. Not enough info for that to make a rational conclusion.
just looking at all of the possibilities.
After coming of age during the 60s and seeing it all in friends and acquantances, I would say that MJ, like alcohol, affects different people, at different ages, differently.
I have very productive intelligent people I know that have used it occasionally for fifty years with no problems. I have other people I know that used it and became unproductive wastes of space for the rest of their lives. Same with alcohol although the recovery from alcohol misuse seems to be very positive and permanent for some.
I don’t think we can predict how it will impact us so I think counseling caution and avoidance is worthwhile.
I want pot banned completely - by the states. But it’s not apparent that marijuana in this driver’s system had any bearing on the accident.
That said, jurisdictions which legalize recreational pot have seen significant increases in auto accidents.
Driving under any impairing substance should be illegal. Especially the countless Rx pills that fully zonk you and police do not even have tests for.
But if someone is going to use something and be stupid enough to drive, cannabis is statistically by far the safest
My “official” driving record was spotless—but in my younger years I was just very lucky that I never caught driving while impaired.
I specifically remember one “driving while high” incident where it seemed the road was swaying from left to right, then right to left, then up to down, then down to up...kinda like driving in a really bad earthquake.
Pot is a topic that I am in the minority, believing it should always be illegal. I see the damage and cost everywhere from its use. And, no, I don’t see a little as okay, as a comparison to alcohol.
Driver also had traces of aspirin in her system.
Correlation does not equal causation!
Regards,
We got 8 guys in a VW Bug (one if the old style ones) when I was in HS. Luckily we only had to go about 1 mile.
My view is that both marijuana and alcohol are easily abused and potentially very damaging.
While I think they should be legal, I also think that there should be full disclosure about their dangers.
I don't follow. So if you had 10 people in a room and all of them peed in a cup and came up positive for THC, it's reasonable to assume they all toked up recently?
THC binds to fat. The longer you smoke, and the more body fat you retain, the longer detectable THC stays in your system. It's not an accurate indicator of when it was last used, just that it was used sometime in the past.
Driving while using substances is the problem here, not the marijuana.
Go talk to any police officer you know and they’ll tell you they’d much rather deal with pot heads then drunks.
People have known about the risks to life and limb and others when “under the influence” forever. I wonder how many home fall fatalities are due to victim being high or drunk.
Media driven propaganda makes drug taking harmless..(God forbid you eat gluten) . Ignorant people die cause they think psychotropics are safe...
That must have looked like a clown car routine when you all got out.
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