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Putin's top security officials believe 'the war is lost' and a coup is a realistic possibility, Russia analyst says
Daily Mail ^ | 5/19/2022 | Will Stewart

Posted on 05/19/2022 9:33:36 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

Vladimir Putin's top security officials understand that the war in Ukraine is 'lost' and a coup is now a realistic possibility, a Russian analyst has predicted.

Christo Grozev, a Russia expert, believes GRU and FSB elites are the most likely to try and topple Putin, because they know the truth of what is happening on the ground.

And those elites are already looking for ways to move their money and families out of the country in anticipation of Putin falling, Grozev claims.

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Grozev also said that defence ministry flights to a supposed command and control bunker near Ufa - 725 miles east of Moscow - have reduced since earlier in the war.

'Those flights for the elite, which we recorded a month ago, are now not so intense,' he said.

Grozev said that senior figures in the FSB - Russia's main internal security agency - and in the GRU military intelligence directorate - are preparing for life after Putin.

The 'intellectual part of the GRU', those with 'complete information' understand the mire Putin is in, he said.

'And also the FSB elite, which knows the specific number of victims among the Russian troops, and understands that the mothers, wives, sisters of the dead or missing Russian soldiers do not stop asking questions.

'They know that this situation will eventually get out of hand.

'These are those parts of the security forces who know the dangers for the regime, and they themselves are now preparing their future.

'Some of them are looking for an opportunity to take their families out of Russia, all are looking for ways to transfer the accumulated money (corruption money in many cases) into dollars and euros.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: coup; dailyfail; propaganda; putin; putlims; silliness
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1 posted on 05/19/2022 9:33:36 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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Shouldn’t be too difficult to slip some naughty chems into Vlad’s IV fluids.


2 posted on 05/19/2022 9:36:54 AM PDT by corkoman
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To: marcusmaximus

Daily mail is like Gateway.

It will happen in October and the immediate aftermath narrative will be interpreted as a Biden accomplishment.


3 posted on 05/19/2022 9:37:51 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: marcusmaximus

With all reports, I encourage everyone to look up the author, who he works for, its history, etc...

We live in a world of manipulated news, coming from all sides.

This “Russia Analyst” is basically a blogger who works for an EU equivalent of DailyKos or Drudge Report. Not discounting that such sources can offer truth, but if you thought he had ANY connection to Russian intelligence, you would be wrong.


4 posted on 05/19/2022 9:40:37 AM PDT by PGR88
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Explain how he can, in his predictions, know that top Putin officials understand that Putin needs to be deposed?

🤣🤣🤣


5 posted on 05/19/2022 9:41:14 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: marcusmaximus

And how can this analyst know what these unnamed officials believe, or that they believe the war is lost?

🤣


6 posted on 05/19/2022 9:43:31 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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Yet the Azovstal Steel Mill was taken by Russia.

Why do you believe the mainstream media?

7 posted on 05/19/2022 9:47:05 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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https://thedreizinreport.com/2022/05/19/the-ukraine-in-one-video/

The fact is, the Ukrainian army that existed before February 24th, 2022, no longer exists.

Outside of those reduced units still pinned down in the Donbass, it’s mostly barely-trained militia, untrained draftees, and members of the (formerly) inactive reserve, with a thin superstructure of cadre.

Yes, some of them really want to fight, and will. (Some don’t, and won’t.)

But the professional army outside of the Donbass, no longer exists, as such.

8 posted on 05/19/2022 9:47:15 AM PDT by Kazan
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He’s so done.


9 posted on 05/19/2022 9:49:32 AM PDT by toddausauras (How far will the left go in terms of destroying our personal freedoms?)
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To: marcusmaximus
Didn't we have the same post here a few weeks ago?
And Putin is still in power and as strong as ever.
10 posted on 05/19/2022 9:51:26 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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Poor Putin.

It is beginning to look like he will die in his sleep - probably with a pillow over his face. If he’s really sick, that will likely be the official cause of death.

In any case, he better sleep with his doors locked and blocked lest regime change find its way in.


11 posted on 05/19/2022 9:52:56 AM PDT by Little Ray (Civilization runs on a narrow margin. What sustains it is not magic, but hard work. )
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To: Kazan

The Ukraine apologists here are not going to like that.
Chuckle.


12 posted on 05/19/2022 9:53:46 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: marcusmaximus

Er, yes. Russian officials are discussing a coup against Putin in such a way that the Daily Mail is going to find out about it. Sure.


13 posted on 05/19/2022 9:59:18 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: wastedyears
Yet the Azovstal Steel Mill was taken by Russia.

Just like Normandy! Well Done Vlad-o!

14 posted on 05/19/2022 10:00:26 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: DIRTYSECRET

No... This sight is like the WP when it comes to Ukraine and Russia. GP at least gets some things right even if they do sensationalize way too much.


15 posted on 05/19/2022 10:06:19 AM PDT by Revel
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To: marcusmaximus

Even though this is just one analyst’s speculation, I don’t think it’s too far-fetched. Russian tyrants can get away with an awful lot, but they cannot usually get away with failure and embarassing the whole nation. Russia has a tendency to “deal with” those kinds of tyrants quickly and quietly.


16 posted on 05/19/2022 10:09:27 AM PDT by Boogieman
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“ top analyst”

Bellingcat

Nothing more to add
https://www.bellingcat.com/author/christo-grozev/


17 posted on 05/19/2022 10:11:12 AM PDT by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: marcusmaximus

The Putinista contingent on FR will be disappointed if something happens to their hero.


18 posted on 05/19/2022 10:12:57 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Kazan
Putin's top general. LOL!



19 posted on 05/19/2022 10:13:45 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Kazan

20 posted on 05/19/2022 10:16:45 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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