When is a False Flag False?

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[jimjohn]

When is a False Flag False? By J. Johnson

Just a passing question for the false flag waivers out there (no insult intended): As there is always talk around here about that ubiquitous 2nd civil war, yet any attack (Cincinnati FBI, self-Jihad at Capitol Hill, etc.) are immediately labeled ‘false-flag’. So what happens when a false flag – isn’t?

Yes, I know the drill. “the false flag will be used to as the excuse round up guns, conservatives, money, and eventually make what’s left of us eat bugs…”, and such musings in Freeper land and elsewhere. I get it. Well, outside of eating the bugs, most of these things either happening already, or will be with the new hire of 87,000 pistol-packing IRS agents.

Bottom line: At some point, people with less self-control than ourselves might say ‘enough is enough’ , and go 4/19/1775 on someone or something. What can or should we do at that point?

If I were to ask a January 6 inmate “when the 2nd Civil War will start?”, I wonder what their answer would be? … or to some Trump associated getting their doors kicked in at 4:00 am?

[jimjohn]

Your comments and/or thoughts are welcome.

[AndyTheBear]

Its a fallacy to assume every reported grevience the Left complains about is a false flags or entirely false flags. For example in j6 there were some on our side misbehaving as well as some lying and exaggeration and false flag behavior. It was neither entirely false flag free nor false flag. There were many people doing many things including lots of misbehavior by anti Trumo people including the murder of Ashli Babbit.

By contrast individual hoaxes like the Smollet case are more purely false flag.

The difference is when many people are involved it will likely involve bad behavior by many people on various sides.

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

Agreed.
The inclusion of the term “lone wolf” would indicate, to me, a false flag.

[Robert DeLong]

some lying and exaggeration

I would say there has been a lot of lying and exaggeration, and that it is still going on at full speed with the bogus J6 Commission, along the treatment of the many who are only charged with trespassing & parading who are still languishing in confinement without a trial, over a year later, and almost 2 years now.

Obviously a disagree wholeheartedly with your weak choice of wording. 🙂

[Navy Patriot]

A False Flag discussion, interesting.

I would think that FF narratives are significantly enabled by a Culture that has deteriorated to a point where Justice, Law and Enforcement routinely operates on a Double Standard.

This allows the opportunistic FF Narrative to be adapted to any incident by using Politicized media to Blame the Good Guy and Sanctifying the Criminal responsible for the offense to Civilization.

A Premeditated FF situation also advantages from this routinely accepted Double Standard, example: Russia, Russia, Russia.

The USA has such a Double Standard accepting Culture.

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

Yes.
And, that FF double standard appears to be accepted on “both” sides.

Both the State and “the rabble” perpetrate false flags and they seem to be just accepted in the current atmosphere.
Quite often, they aren’t recognized and labeled as FF since they appear common?

[JimRed]

Are you of the opinion that our people did the January 6 violence, rather than left wing infiltrators?

[Navy Patriot]

And, that FF double standard appears to be accepted on “both” sides.

Well, the population (people) of the Culture accept it and they are where the (more than one) "sides" come from.

I have no way of knowing whether the "Leaders" of the "Sides" accept the DS personally, but they seem willing to use it, Some more some less.

MY personal view is the Elite Socialist left abuses the DS far more than others.

Quite often, they aren’t recognized and labeled as FF since they appear common?

You posed that as a question, however I agree as a comment.

[BenLurkin]

What makes the red man red?

[Deaf Smith]

Best guess that there will one or two successful events that will be labeled as Lone Wolves.

Then there will several successful repeats by “copycats” once the tactics and methods are understood.

Then may go into the snowball effect as multiple successful Lone Wolf attacks against the elite Left are reported weekly and threats of nation wide lock downs of cities and travel.

At that point there may be a million plus Lone Wolves dropping the elite Left, included media heads and talking heads.

[joma89]

Anything that makes your enemy look bad. That is how you define each.

[generally]

Logical and well said.

Please see:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4085496/posts?page=768#768

and

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4085496/posts?page=773#773

[generally]

p.s. I think we are meant to worry that the IRS agents are going to come after us in the middle class and squeeze us ever harder.

But I think this will be a boomerang operation. What if they end up going after all the deep state players who have been insider trading (I’m looking at you Pelosi, Cheney, Schumer, and so many others), the child traffickers, the money launderers, and so many others guilty of major RICO crimes?

One can hope. And pray. Pray a lot.

[jimjohn]

I re-read my comment and for the life of my cannot understand how ANYONE could insinuate that that 1/6 POW’s did the violence.

But for you, I’ll explain: The one 1/6 reference was about the start of CW2. You see, to them, it’s already started.

Sincerely,
jimjohn