Coulda been. Remember when Meg Ryan "played chess" with Billy Crystal in the restaurant scene? (When Harry Met Sally.) She won.
Posted on 09/20/2022 2:16:12 AM PDT by zeestephen
Probably not.
It was a preliminary qualifying round for the main tournament.
It will be interesting to see if Carlsen and Niemann both qualify.
Carlsen will not dump a main event game.
In the game in question, it was the "deep" moves and the speed in which he was making them that drew suspicion.
Kinda like me asking you what 237 x 4178 equals and giving little thought, you immediately give me the correct answer.
And the fact that Niemann has admitted to cheating in on line tournaments in the past certainly doesn't help his case.
If Niemann comes in 8th place, the guy who misses out qualifying coming in 9th may think differently, especially if it’s close.
Carlsen needs to channel his inner Johnny Cochrane. “If I get beat. He must be a cheat.”
It was a qualifying game.
Carlsen will ace out the other games and qualify.
My guess - he is showing contempt for Niemann.
Not quite. My post wasn't concerning computers vs humans, but that computers will eventually map out every possible move and countermove.
Found this on them interwebs:
The number of possible chess moves has been estimated to be even more than the number of atoms in the universe. The number of atoms in the universe is thought to be as many as 10 to the 81st, or 10 multiplied by itself 81 times, while the number of possible moves in chess is estimated to be 10 to the 120th.
That humans could no longer compete with computers was made clear when Big Blue beat Kasparov. Although, Gary had a good point when he pointed out that the computer was programmed specifically to beat him, being loaded with all of his previous games. I speculate (with nothing to back me up) that if another grandmaster would have taken Kasparov's place, he would have beaten the computer.
Of course, that was almost 20 years ago and computers have gained a great deal of power since then.
Out loud.
Proof isn’t required in the mind game surrounding the world of competitive Chess. After becoming World Champion, Bobby Fisher never got another match, just the way he wanted. So he and the World Chess Federation quit having anything to do with each other. He didn’t cheat, but the international crowd of grand masters, couldn’t stand playing against him. They would become sick during matches with him. Fisher Fever is what they called it. He wasn’t making them sick, but they were worrying themselves sick because of how he played.
Chess has always been a leading application of artificial intelligence. I can analyze a position, looking at it on an on-screen chessboard, while the computer analyzes. After about 5 minutes, I can glance at the computer results. The computer may have considered and evaluated more than 20 million positions. That may be more positions than a person can consider in a lifetime. It’s a little like asking who runs faster, you or your car.
Yes, computers are, computationally speaking, very strong. However, if chess is anything to go by, there is no intelligence in artificial intelligence. There are a few tip-offs. Here are a two that I have encountered.
The computer may repeat a position (in all respects) and compute a better result the second time than the first time, when reason tells us there can be no change.
There are some positions that are described as a fortress position. These usually occur in the endgame. One side has a material advantage but can make no progress. The computer continues to claim a winning advantage, but in fact there is no advantage at all. Even an average human player, who applies himself, will admit “I just don’t see any way to make progress” and agree to a draw. The computer can not make any progress either but will continue to play for the win until the sun goes nova.
Niemann's rating is 2688 - #8 out of 16 players.
So, yeah, maybe it is unfair for Carlsen to toss him 3 free qualifying points.
On the other hand, what should Carlsen do if he thinks Niemann cheated in his previous game? Stay silent and do nothing, since he cannot prove it?
Obviously he thinks there’s cheating. He’s boycotting Niemann!
Did the cheater win by default?
That’ll show the quitter.
Coulda been. Remember when Meg Ryan "played chess" with Billy Crystal in the restaurant scene? (When Harry Met Sally.) She won.
Chess.com banned Hans for what they say is repeated cheating recently, but they don’t release any evidence saying that they can’t reveal their anti-cheating algorithms. (Sounds like the FBI and Merrick Garland). Chess.com is also engaged in negotiations with Magnus about some deal so I would encourage Hans to get a shark legal team. A European women’s Grandmaster threatened to sue them over a cheating allegation and chess.com backed down, but that was a while ago.
If the latter, that's why Carlsen left the tournament. No point in playing on if your own team has been compromised by gambling money - have to clean up the mess, first.
Or was receiving signals from an accomplice running a computer simulation
Magnus Carlsen has carefully thought over his abrupt withdrawal from the the Sinquefield Cup, and decided he is still determined to act like a spoiled brat. The FIDE ethics committee should take appropriate action against Magnus Carlsen.
There is zero evidence that Niemann ever cheated in an over-the-board game. Magnus Carlsen, the World Chess Champion, unfortunately is a paranoid jerk.
“When a socialite is accepted into a country club, pays an uncomfortable amount for membership, meal tickets, green fees and tournament fees for in club events, and is outed for cheating while playing on a Saturday morning round for the smallest of bets... That socialite might have a rough time finding anyone to play golf with at that club again.”
Makes me glad I quit keeping score 20 or 30 years ago. I enjoy the game thoroughly but why be held back ir frustrated by keeping score?
Just swing it and watch the beauty of a ball in flight! I don’t keep score on the driving range either. All golf really means to me is a movable driving range... like I said I thoroughly enjoy smacking balls but ain’t going to get all worked up over a score...
I was once a serious chess player. Not grand master level, but I did win money once at a regional event (Kansas City Open).
This is a way of “making a statement” about the integrity of his opponent. Resigning after one move is simply a way to draw more attention to the fact that Magnus thinks he is a cheat.
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