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Ukraine Russia War - What is Next?
Judging Freedom ^ | November 16, 2022 | Douglas MacGregor

Posted on 11/17/2022 3:53:47 AM PST by Cathi

Tension increasing. Col. MacGregor provides an inside look at the Ukraine current situation and what is likely to happen.

He maintains the United States is in no position to get into this war with Russia and that the Pentagon is strongly opposed.

He expects a major offensive by Russia within weeks.


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New missile and drone attack currently underway.

https://t.me/i20028843

⚡️Targets in Vinnytsia, Lviv, Kyiv, Kharkiv, Mykolayiv, Odessa and Dnipropetrovsk regions have been hit as of 12 hours. Emergency power cuts have begun in Poltava and Dnipropetrovsk oblasts. Cellular communications and mobile Internet in Kyiv region have begun to drop. The Yuzhmash plant in Dnipropetrovsk oblast is affected (severe fire) and gas production facilities. A gas industry facility in Kharkiv region is also affected. In Odessa and Ochakov, military units are hit.⚡️

1 posted on 11/17/2022 3:53:47 AM PST by Cathi
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To: Cathi

Merely the ghost of the former Soviet Union, the government of the 21st century Russian Federation has left the company of legitimate nations and now is just a real-life Godzilla/Gojira intent destruction, death, and anger. Sad.


2 posted on 11/17/2022 4:15:39 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: Cathi
He expects a major offensive by Russia within weeks.

Hasn't MacGregor been saying that for nine months?

3 posted on 11/17/2022 4:20:31 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Cathi
He expects a major offensive by Russia within weeks.

With what? Are they renovating T55s now?

The Ukrainians will get even more air defense after the missile incident. Italy is delivering more artillery and Sweden is delivering almost $300 million in additional military assistance, and Swedish weapons have about the biggest bang for the buck.

The Ukrainians are very enthusiastic about the victory in Kherson, the Russians have pulled back some kilometers from the left bank of the Dnipro to escape Ukrainian artillery and they are even fortifying the Crimean border.

It's still a slog, but it looks to me like the Russian army in Ukraine may simply decide it doesn't want to fight anymore and withdraw like the Russian Army in 1917.

4 posted on 11/17/2022 4:28:48 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Cathi

The Russian army has been trying to break through the UKr lines at Bakhmut for several months now. Stopped every time with heavy losses. But I guess that this new offensive will be successful though.

Their 3 day war has lasted a bit longer than they predicted.


5 posted on 11/17/2022 4:33:32 AM PST by Uncle Lonny
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To: Cathi

Zelensky needs eliminated before his next nuclear armageddon mass murder attempt.


6 posted on 11/17/2022 4:46:46 AM PST by KobraKai
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To: KobraKai

“Zelensky needs eliminated before his next nuclear armageddon mass murder attempt.”
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Unfortunately when the Russian troops on the other side of the Dnieper asked permission to rain down artillery strikes on Zelensky during his PR appearance in Kherson the command absolutely forbid it. They said, “We are not terrorists.”


7 posted on 11/17/2022 4:52:06 AM PST by Cathi
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To: Cathi

I also think it is likely that Zelensky is not in Ukraine and hasn’t been for quite some time.


8 posted on 11/17/2022 5:08:19 AM PST by KobraKai
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To: Cathi

I guess you were sitting in the Russian high command meetings. Very impressive.


9 posted on 11/17/2022 5:10:33 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Cathi
They said, “We are not terrorists.”

Right, but ruZZians firing hundreds of not very accurate Iranian suicide drones at cities is not terrorism.

A 69 year old woman was visiting her husband’s grave when shells from a Russian rocket killed her on the spot. - Plesetske village


10 posted on 11/17/2022 5:10:40 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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That picture is obviously being to be questioned.

What size shell?

Why is there no apparent damage adjacent to the body?


11 posted on 11/17/2022 5:13:07 AM PST by Fury
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To: tlozo

Clearly a “military target” there. Warmongering Russia has a seemingly never ending bloodlust.


12 posted on 11/17/2022 5:15:18 AM PST by lodi90
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To: tlozo
I hope that's not USMCRevMomies! She makes the best Borscht! LOL!!
13 posted on 11/17/2022 5:18:36 AM PST by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! )
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To: pierrem15
With what? Are they renovating T55s now?

Done and dusted. They are working on the T34's now that they got out of the museums.
14 posted on 11/17/2022 5:52:24 AM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: Uncle Lonny
The Russian army has been trying to break through the UKr lines at Bakhmut for several months now. Stopped every time with heavy losses. But I guess that this new offensive will be successful though.
Their 3 day war has lasted a bit longer than they predicted.


They are attacking where their supply lines are the shortest, but without success. WWII Soviet tactics don't work against modern arms and a motivated foe.
15 posted on 11/17/2022 5:54:53 AM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: marktwain

Yeah, and the local bar keeps promising free beer tomorrow.


16 posted on 11/17/2022 6:09:46 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: tlozo

Ukrainian POV: We blow up grain ships: RUSSIA AND PUTIN

We commit crimes against humanity: RUSSIA AND PUTIN

We shell Donbas for 8 years: RUSSIA AND PUTIN

We shell a nuclear power plant: RUSSIA AND PUTIN

We shell Crimea Bridge and kill 3 people: RUSSIA AND PUTIN

We kill multitudes of ‘collaborators’ in Bucha: RUSSIA AND PUTIN

We refuse to come to the negotiating table: RUSSIA PUTIN AND MISSILE STRIKES

We fire missiles into Poland and kill 2 people: RUSSIA AND PUTIN, NOT UKRAINE


17 posted on 11/17/2022 6:09:48 AM PST by cranked
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I would hazard a guess that not one of the bloviating blowhards who have posted here today even bothered to watch the Col. MacGregor interview.

Do YOURSELVES a favor and watch the 24 min. video and see if you are still so certain that you know what is going on. After all, you may have sons or grandsons who will bear the brunt of the Deep State’s ignorance and hubris.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKAuLFpQ3dY

“There are none so blind as those who will not see.”

Col. Douglas MacGregor is a Trump favorite.

November 12, 2022 Responsible Statecraft

Macgregor, a West Point graduate, is an acquired taste: outspoken and controversial. He has flagged reporters with his statements about immigrants (we need martial law at the U.S.-Mexico border), Iranians (we need to look for areas where we can cooperate), Afghanistan (we have no business being there) Iraq (we should have left, long ago), and Syria (we should get out immediately). Those views aren’t to everyone’s liking, but they’re especially controversial in the military, whose staid stance on foreign interventions does not countenance the kind of dissent in the upper ranks that Macgregor represents. Macgregor, it is said, has refused to “stay in his lane,” has been too outspoken, too vocal, and not really a team player.

Yet, senior military officers quietly admit that in terms of sheer intellect, no one quite matches Macgregor. Several years ago, I asked a senior U.S. Marine Corps officer to name each of the services’s most creative thinkers. His answers were entirely predictable to anyone with even a passing knowledge of those in uniform, except when it came to the Army. He didn’t hesitate: “It’s Doug Macgregor,” he said. “He’s the best thinker they have, living or dead.” Retired Gen. Tommy Franks would probably disagree.

Franks, the former commander of Operation Iraqi Freedom, brought Macgregor (then still in uniform), to U.S. Central Command headquarters in Tampa in the run-up to the Iraq War in early 2002 to brief his war planners. Macgregor took a roundabout, but effective route, in getting there: he had briefed Newt Gingrich on his own war plan for Iraq, and Gingrich was so taken by what he had to say that he recommended him to then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, who insisted that Franks hear him out.

Macgregor’s appearance in Tampa is now a part of Army legend. The U.S. military can take Baghdad with 15,000 troops, Macgregor announced to the room of uniformed experts. The statement stunned Franks, as did Macgregor’s advice on “Phase IV” (postwar) operations — which had not been mentioned in his briefing. Why wasn’t it there? Macgregor was asked. “The reason it’s not there,” Macgregor said, “is because we’re not going to need it. We’re going to turn the governing of Iraq over to the Iraqis, then we’re going to get out.”

Whereupon Mike Fitzgerald, one of Franks’ most senior planners, got up from his seat and left the room. “I think it was at that point that Doug’s career ended,” a fellow West Point graduate says. That’s probably true, but only in part.

While Macgregor retired soon after his Tampa appearance, he did so only after talking with then-Army Chief of Staff Eric Shinseki. Macgregor told Shinseki that the Army needed to get lighter and faster, cutting away its logistic tail and its top-heavy officer corps. Shinseki not only agreed, he was planning his own Macgregor-like series of reforms. But the talk with Shinseki wasn’t the first time Macgregor had made his mark. Shinseki’s immediate predecessor, Army Chief of Staff Dennis Reimer, required his senior staff to read “Breaking the Phalanx,” Macgregor’s 1997 book on how the Army should fight. Reimer helped to put Macgregor’s innovations on the map. This is where we need to go, Reimer told his staff.

And then there’s 73 Easting.

Arguably, none of Doug Macgregor’s later influence would have been possible without the Battle of 73 Easting (named for its map coordinates — its “phase lines”), which is still studied by armored officers as one of the most significant, and most lopsided, tank victories in the history of American warfare. The battle took place on February 26, 1991 — when elements of the U.S. 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment, under Macgregor, took on the tanks of the Tawakalna Division of Saddam Hussein’s vaunted Republican Guard. Macgregor expertly maneuvered his tanks through the enemy lines — directing his tank leaders, one of whom was H.R. McMaster, through the enemy lines. Macgregor lost one man killed, but his tank squadrons destroyed dozens of armored vehicles. The battle had a deep effect on Macgregor, who remembers talking with one of the Iraqi prisoners after the battle: “Why do you not go to Baghdad now?” the prisoner asked him. “You have the power. Your army rules the heavens and the earth. Do you think we love Saddam?” In the years that followed, the Iraqi prisoners’ words haunted Macgregor. The road to Baghdad was open — but America didn’t take it.

Ironically, in one of those odd twists of history, Macgregor’s role as the commander of his tank squadrons is often ignored, while McMaster is remembered and celebrated. Then too, as any senior Army officer will testify, Macgregor’s outspoken and often too-public critique of his own service hurt his chances for promotion. Macgregor questioned everything: why are we staying in Afghanistan? Or Iraq? Or Syria? Why are we prosecuting these endless wars? Doug Macgregor had lots of time to ponder these questions, particularly during Operation Iraqi Freedom, as his kinsman and fellow officer, McMaster, was adding to his laurels during the Anbar Awakening, where he performed brilliantly. Macgregor, meanwhile, was sidelined and marginalized, with a position at the National Defense University.

And so, it seems the McMaster-Macgregor narrative was set. McMaster got his stars, while Doug Macgregor went on to a career as a military historian. McMaster became the acolyte to greatness (the up-and-coming friend of David Petraeus), a controversial president’s national security advisor (one of the “adults in the room”), a gruff-voiced patriot (warning us incessantly of looming threats in Russia, China, Iran, etc.), and all-around “team player.”

Macgregor has always shrugged this off: his old friend deserves his stars, deserves his praise, and has proved his courage. Team player? It’s true: McMaster has been so fitted to his uniform that he looks like a throwback, a latter-day Patton. He’s the quintessential team player in a service that prizes staying in your lane, that rewards teamwork. And Macgregor? Oddly, and ironically — and for all of his outspoken views on ending America’s endless wars, Doug Macgregor has also been a team player.

He’s just been on the wrong team.


18 posted on 11/17/2022 6:14:49 AM PST by Cathi
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To: Williams

And if he were in Russian High Command Meetings, this is exactly what he would hear:

Rumors have been leaked by a Ukarianian semi-diplomat that Russia has put one last peace deal to him this week, in the midst of the G7-19 meeting. According people familar with his discussion, actually a side discussion amongst several people from the Ukrainian side, that one of them was taken aside by Russia’s “clerk” or assistant who was displaying maps and charts during the disussion. This clerk was not a speaker, but only the assistant.

This clerk warned his former comrades that the deal on the table was a non-hostile honest attempt to show final lines in a war that only ends if Ukraine agrees to end this war with most the final lines on the River; Ukraine does not continue the type of activity they engaged during the peace of 2018-2018/22 in which Russia friendly peoples were targeted. The chart handler also told the Ukrainian that Russia would no longer continue the war if Ukraine stopped too. He said this is how peace looks with no shooting or assinations. He said Russian’s always felt kinsmanship with Ukrainian living peoples of all origins, and esp. between Ukrainian and Russians themselves. Killing brothers must end. NATO must not interfere further in Ukrainian affairs, but EU may. Nothing was said by the Russian briefer or team of further Russian aggression. No threats, just peace offerings.

The clerk’s larger point not being lost on the lead Ukrainian was that Russia was prepared/preparing? to give an attempt to end this war on military terms. Russia has been reorganizing forces, overstrengthening combat units, etc.

The military solution will be akin to the German Blitzkriegs of their grandfathers generations. Russia is prepared to wholly subjugate by fire and advance on up to 20 axis or spearheads if attacks with the primary goal of total destruction of Ukraine’s economy and infastructure.

This would begin with a Kremlin announcement, if executed, by the Kremlin who is to explain that the Special Militart Operation is over. The Kremlin announcement is to explain how this offensive is now a War with Ukraine - and that the execution of war does not allow the enemy to expect any quarter other than POW status until hostilities end on Russian Terms.

The Kremlin position on Ukraine starting the Special Operation is due to the American February 10th document making NATO inclusion of Ukraine as a full ally.

Kremlin will execute a war in which Russia will create the future DMZ of 20-miles no mans land on both sides - or actually a Russian push of maybe 100-miles in enough directions to make a defendable zone for Russian forces, but leaving Ukraine in their DMZ side unable to use natural terrain to defend - thus peace would be more acceptable knowing another round of warefare is impossible.

Kremlin will ask Zielinski to meet at a site with the Civilian non-military leadership of NATO in Brussels. This is to be fair and open offer of settlement of a sort of DMZ between countries. Of course this offer is made with the threat of force once announced if not accepted.


19 posted on 11/17/2022 6:21:51 AM PST by Jumper ( )
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To: tlozo

At least they are together... she lived to be with him. Maybe this is a fitting small story in a terrible war’s historical accounts.


20 posted on 11/17/2022 6:23:49 AM PST by Jumper ( )
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