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Anyone seen the new movie Devotion?
https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3575300633/?ref_=ext_shr_em ^ | 11-25-22

Posted on 11/25/2022 7:06:37 AM PST by nuconvert

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To: nuconvert

Based on would be fine. He has a compelling story. And in a sane time it would be a good film. I read the book when it came out and thought it would be a great movie. First black navy pilot probably did have a few problems here and there. He had to be a cut above to be the first one selected. The centerpiece of the film was that he was down on the ground after being hit by ground fire, trapped in his plane. His white squadron mate crash landed his corsair in the same field so he could help him. There was a 24 hour effort to try to free him from the cockpit and rescue him, with helicopters going back-and-forth to the remote snowy North Korean mountain meadow.
The story could and should have been an inspiring tale of a white and black working together, and of a white pilot who belly landed his plane to aid a black squadron mate and that communist Chinese were the enemy. And that those two men were fellow Americans first.

But in this woke era. But CGI and grievance fanning is more important.
And if they turned it into a MiG15 dogfight they blew it.


21 posted on 11/25/2022 7:58:18 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: nuconvert
"...the comradeship between naval officers Jesse Brown and Tom Hudner during the Korean War."

Korean war? I saw the trailer and saw a lot of Vought F4U Corsairs and some Grumman F6F Hellcats. I assumed the movie was about WWII...though they did see action in Korea.

22 posted on 11/25/2022 8:02:29 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Great minds drink alike...me and my baby havin' a hell of a night. - - BB King)
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To: nuconvert; All

I was aware of this movie but hadn’t focused on it. Given the criticisms here, now I’ll have to watch it. My interest level isn’t especially high so I don’t know when I’ll get around to it, but I am trying to be mindful of my New Year’s resolution to try to actually see a film before I trash it (or praise it, as the case may be).

Harry Truman integrated the armed services. Good for Harry Truman. I have plenty of criticisms of the man, but that was a big thing, and Truman did the right thing.

It is an interesting question to consider what might have happened had Woodrow Wilson not been elected, but that’s another story. The self-righteous, arrogant prig from Virginia by way of Princeton was a catastrophe. Harding and Coolidge didn’t do enough to reverse Wilson’s institutionalized racism, and FDR let the issue drift. Truman finally manned up, and I think Eisenhower would have done it if Truman hadn’t.

That’s the backstory I’d like to see Hollywood explore. Given the nature of filmmaking, most of this would have to be backgrounded in a movie that would probably be a tightly focused character drama, but it could be done. A handful of well-placed lines in scenes that are expansive enough to let the context breathe could go a long way. That could make a terrific movie.

Or the film could be a hack, woke propaganda job. That’s what I’ll have in mind when I watch it. It depends on whether the characters are real given the context of their time, and that can get pretty subtle.


23 posted on 11/25/2022 8:08:38 AM PST by sphinx
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To: real saxophonist

Is that the one where the trailer has the partial Cadence Count: “I don’t know but I’ve been told...”?

I know of only one Cadence Count that starts that way and I was surprised to hear it in the trailer.


24 posted on 11/25/2022 8:27:51 AM PST by KrisKrinkle (c)
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To: nuconvert
Here's a 13 minute video from The History Guy:

Jesse Brown and Thomas Hudner: A Tale of Two Pilots

25 posted on 11/25/2022 8:40:57 AM PST by real saxophonist (Hoplophobia will never be in the DSM, because the DSM is written by hoplophobes.)
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To: nuconvert

I’m like a number of people that have become very tainted in our attitude towards modern movies. The last movie I saw was “They Shall not Grow Old” four years ago.


26 posted on 11/25/2022 8:49:12 AM PST by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo)
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To: nuconvert

I’ll probably go see it once just because it’s a war movie. But from the trailer it looks fake with all that CGI... like when they remade Battle of Midway...


27 posted on 11/25/2022 9:01:58 AM PST by Pocketdoor
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To: DesertRhino
His white squadron mate crash landed his corsair in the same field so he could help him.

That is a critical point sadly missed by some.

Crash landing the second plane meant that pilot wasn't going to fly his plane out to safety, he knew they both would have to be rescued out under difficult and rapidly deteriorating circumstances.

He intentionally and with a clear mind put himself in that very life-threating position in an effort to rescue his fellow warrior.

28 posted on 11/25/2022 9:05:40 AM PST by frog in a pot (We are all "frogs in a pot", and it is time to jump out.)
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To: Vermont Lt

We had advanced quite a bit during my lifetime.

Then along came Obama. I’ve actually had liberals in my orbit agree that he and his ilk turned the clock backward on race relations.

Division is one very effective way to demolish a nation and it’s peoples.


29 posted on 11/25/2022 9:38:54 AM PST by cld51860 (We’re doomed.)
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To: Varda

Is this movie “woke”?


30 posted on 11/25/2022 9:46:38 AM PST by 2001convSVT (Asking questions is your right.)
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To: 2001convSVT

I think that’s the question. Maybe someone who has seen it will chime in.


31 posted on 11/25/2022 10:23:01 AM PST by Varda
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To: Varda

It would be great if movies were made to just entertain.


32 posted on 11/25/2022 2:55:20 PM PST by 2001convSVT (Asking questions is your right.)
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To: 2001convSVT

Ditto!


33 posted on 11/25/2022 3:13:30 PM PST by apocalypto
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To: nuconvert
So, the fact that it’s based on a true story is meaningless?

It's one thing to base a movie on a true story, but it's another to embellish the facts in order to push an agenda........

34 posted on 11/25/2022 3:21:48 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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