Posted on 01/21/2023 5:31:33 AM PST by DoodleBob
Andrew Tate is a controversial figure. A former pro-kickboxer turned masculinity guru, he’s on record criticizing COVID hysteria, feminism, and open borders—all things the powers that be don’t want us thinking critically about. And with an audience in the millions, it’s safe to say that Tate has proven greatly troublesome to them.
As such, it isn’t surprising that many would chalk up Tate’s recent arrest to his political advocacy. We all know the system is corrupt, but his situation is far more complicated—not to mention sordid—than that.
Still, despite his valid critiques of the liberal order, Andrew Tate is not the hill for conservatives to die on.
First let us examine the charges against Tate. Andrew Tate was arrested in Romania on Thursday, Dec. 29 alongside his brother Tristan and two other suspects. He faces charges of human trafficking, rape, and organized crime and is currently sitting in pre-trial detention.
I can’t say whether or not Tate is guilty. I’ve never been to Romania, let alone familiarized myself with Romanian law. However, these charges are clearly not without substance, and we should bear in mind Andrew Tate’s past statements when evaluating his present legal woes. On why he left Britain, Tate said, “40 percent of the reason I moved to Romania was because rape laws are more lenient there.”
Not the most exonerating statement for a man facing rape charges. And by Tate’s own admission, he was indeed running some sort of shady pornography business, which he has described as a “total scam.” It involved a number of women, some of whom lived in a Romanian mountain retreat owned by Tate, engaging in all sorts of questionable behavior on seedy webcam sites.
Their business model revolved around these camgirls creating sob stories to siphon as much money from their lonely viewers as possible. Sometimes, as explained by Tate in this viral clip, the women would pretend to want to meet the man with whom they were chatting—for $4 per minute—to scam them out of more money, with no intention of actually meeting them.
That sounds like textbook fraud. But again, I am no attorney. Tristan Tate seems to believe their business model was perfectly legal, arguing, “One [line in the terms and conditions] is broadcasting is ‘for entertainment purposes only’. That means if a model says she has a sick dog or a sick grandma it doesn’t have to be true. The next is that all cash given to models is ‘a voluntary sign of gratitude for their time broadcasting’.”
I can’t say whether or not Tate and his team forced these women to participate in these jobs. But according to Romanian prosecutors, Tate and his team “appear to have created an organized crime group with the purpose of recruiting, housing and exploiting women by forcing them to create pornographic content.” Officials also stated that “They were essentially kept under house arrest 24/7 like prisoners. They were deprived of their freedom and followed everywhere.”
Andrew Tate appears to have lured some of these women in through false displays of affection. In a since-deleted post on his website, Tate outlined his method. “My job was to get women to fall in love with me,” he wrote. “Literally, that was my job. My job was to meet a girl, go on a few dates, sleep with her, test if she’s quality, get her to fall in love with me to where she’d do anything I say, and then get her on webcam so we could become rich together.”
In light of the above, can one really say with confidence that the charges against Andrew Tate are entirely baseless? After all, the fact remains that he did indeed run a shady pornography business, one which involved many women, likely under some degree of manipulation, living in a large house he owned, scamming desperate men out of their money. At best, Tate’s operation seems to have operated in a legal gray area; at worst, it was illegal.
But legality is only one angle here. Morality is another. Regardless of whether or not Tate broke the law, his behavior was clearly depraved and reprehensible. Conservatives therefore should neither elevate him as a hero or a martyr; he is unworthy of such support.
At the end of the day, nobody’s perfect. We can’t expect everyone who criticizes liberalism’s sacred cows to be a saint. Still, we have to draw the line somewhere—and as far as I’m concerned, Andrew Tate is beyond the pale.
I agree. While we shouldn’t demand our people to all be saints, Tate (by his own admission) has crossed several lines.
He’s a distraction, its the tried and true tactic where the media trots out randos who are either a bit nuts or dirtied up through a few rounds of yellow journalism and either we condemn them admitting conservatives have gone too far or we don’t admitting we support them. Notice how just a few months ago nobody knew who Andrew Tate was and all of a sudden he’s everywhere. He didn’t get to this point by himself or through amplification by conservatives. Don’t play their game.
Tate is deeply troubling AND deeply troubled. Essentially, he is a law unto himself and should not recieve any attention. None. Nothing to see here.
Yep.
I neither support nor condemn him. To be honest, I’ve never heard his name mentioned but online.
The people I interact with are wise enough to discuss normal topics unless things start going a particular direction and both think “we’re on the same side”.
There’s plenty of verbal and visual clues to find “stay away” clues in a conversation.
Never heard of the guy until a few days before the drama began, he was on some talk show, I can’t recall which.
He impressed me as a big talker in love with his own shuck’n jive, promoting it with every breath.
I generally stay away from that type of person.
Tate is very well known and really popular with the young and emasculated young men in the UK who have had their masculinity trashed on by wokism .
Society created Andrew Tate and he is a response to that society..
Actually, he had a spot on Tucker and FR lit up with lots of supporters.
Maybe they're paid trolls, but MANY people have decided, probably out of despair, that ANY enemy of my enemies is my friend.
The curious thing about Tate, is that if he was gay he'd be Milo. There is very little between the two of them. However, Tate's immorality is OK with some folks because he's straight.
Tucker interviewed him and says he likes him.
yes he is a doubled man man and i did watch many videos of him and I watched the (Wisconsin) trial of Darrell Brooks. Brooks displayed outbursts and certain language patterns in conjunction of those.
The faux bravado, peacocking and being
argumentative every step of the way .
Imho it was very interesting to watch Tate because he mirrored a lot if not all these behaviors.
Somewhere along the line Brooks and Tate experienced arrested emotional and social development.
Imho it started in puberty
sorry about that first line of this post
He has the Muslim opinion on women, and apparently he converted to Islam.
I know. He is arrogant and I am not fond of him. So I looked him up to see who he appears to be. That said, he does have a large following of young men who our western male hating and blaming culture has treated dismally.
He is a product of wokeness damage.
He has/had a huge following on Rumble even after getting booted by YouTube.
And again one of the ramifications of all this is more and more will embrace Islam as a result.
That is quite possible.
Andrew Tate, WHO? (nobody important)
” Andrew Tate is not the hill for conservatives to die on.”
Maybe not dummy, but now is not the time to clip our wings. There are much bigger threats to worry about, like the full throated communist onslaught.
We have a lot of them to deal with before I start looking through my ranks.
Andrew Tate is the real deal and he's a critical thinker (even though he may be a scumbag). The men in the West are emasculated and Andrew Tate speaks to them. The West is at brink of civilization collapse.
The Muslims are doing something right. Maybe we should learn from them.
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