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1 posted on 01/21/2023 7:16:22 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv
It was spread by Climate Change anti-Vaxxers.
2 posted on 01/21/2023 7:18:42 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.))
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To: SunkenCiv

I thought it was the fleas on the rats that spread the disease?


3 posted on 01/21/2023 7:18:44 AM PST by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell..)
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To: SunkenCiv

so what is this saying?

It wasn’t rats, bit it might have been Asian rats, and temporarily European rat reservoirs?

Or it was Asians. Probably conducting gain of function studies on the plague virus. And funded by some well meaning European country, since the US wasn’t around yet to provide the stupidity.


4 posted on 01/21/2023 7:22:55 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: SunkenCiv

They forgot to wear their plague masks?


11 posted on 01/21/2023 7:31:57 AM PST by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: SunkenCiv
I read an article about the plague.

Rome and Florence supposedly had 50 to 75% mortality rates, while Milan had a 15% mortality rate. The reason why was that Milan leaders sealed and bricked up affected households basically leaving them to die.

Have no idea how accurate the history is.

How Did People During Middle Ages Survive the Black Death?

22 posted on 01/21/2023 7:52:40 AM PST by DallasBiff (Kamala is not the sharpest knife in the drawer)
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To: SunkenCiv

“But plague could have also been repeatedly reintroduced from Asia.”

Yes, and on a contemporary note, one of the key vectors for the bubonic plague entering Europe was through what is today Ukraine/Crimea, since trade goods from China would route through there to the Genoese trading posts for shipment to the Mediterranean.


25 posted on 01/21/2023 7:55:20 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: SunkenCiv

“slow-moving rats may not have played the critical role...”

Rats do not move slow when we are transporting them on ships...


27 posted on 01/21/2023 7:56:08 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: SunkenCiv

There is a good book called “Justinians Flea” (cannot remember the author) regarding the emergence of the plague in Constantinople. The premise is that rats and their fleas arrived in Constantinople on grain ships from Egypt. The plague decimated the population of Constantinople. Rats being opportunistic hitchhiked on ships and other transportation to all corners of Europe creating the pandemic we call the “Black Death”.


31 posted on 01/21/2023 8:05:07 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreams)
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To: SunkenCiv

This is the first I’ve heard that rats are slow moving in their reproduction and spreading out. If the food is there THEY are there.


35 posted on 01/21/2023 8:07:00 AM PST by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Cats (and some dogs) ate the rats, got fleas from the rats, spread it through the households.

Don’t know if mites on birds carry the plague, but if so, that might explain a more rapid dispersal of the plague?


37 posted on 01/21/2023 8:14:02 AM PST by Bob434
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To: SunkenCiv

I suspect it was a range of infectious diseases, and Y. Pestis wasn’t the only player.

It is also interesting that Y. Pestis might have beat Columbus to the new world. Lots of rather interesting implications on that.


46 posted on 01/21/2023 8:25:02 AM PST by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: SunkenCiv
Let me guess. Like chattel slavery and Jim Crow in the South, it wasn't Rats. It was those Rascally Republicans.

Oh, sorry. I get my slimy disease carrying rodents confused.

50 posted on 01/21/2023 8:31:50 AM PST by katana
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To: SunkenCiv
Rats reprieved as giant gerbils are blamed for the Black Death

So I was right to hate the gerbils my college roommate had living in the dorm with us. And to hate the roommate, too.

52 posted on 01/21/2023 8:37:51 AM PST by x
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting that some credit hygiene with ending the Black Death yet ‘science’ appears to have never analyzed transmission by feces, (animal, e.g., rodent, bird or, for that matter, flea droppings), human or otherwise (that I’ve seen).

I never believed the flea bite hypothesis, dating back to grade school. The orthodox “transmitted by the bite of a flea” is a functional blinder.


54 posted on 01/21/2023 8:38:42 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: SunkenCiv

I thought it was infected fleas entering sailing vessels in Black Sea ports and exiting the vessels in Mediterranian and Altlantic ports.


65 posted on 01/21/2023 9:25:54 AM PST by fso301
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To: SunkenCiv
Our study offers two possibilities. One, the plague was being reintroduced from Asian reservoirs.

I'm too lazy this morning to look it up -- was that the period when European trade with Asia ramped up?

We have been "plagued" lately by Asian Stiltgrass seeds that get into packing materials. Many foreign plants meet no resistance in a new environment and soon take over entire fields and forests. The Stiltgrass requires very expensive weedicides meant for golf courses, etc., to be eliminated from residential lawns—the usual weedicides won't cut it. Stiltgrass has spread all over our townhome neighborhood and forest park because even if one owner gets rid of it, the lawns next door and the forest trail will spread it back. Hoping it doesn't become a widespread native-plant killer like kudzu did.

66 posted on 01/21/2023 9:30:43 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: SunkenCiv
"However, the rapid spread of the Black Death and subsequent outbreaks of the next few centuries also suggest slow-moving rats may not have played the critical role in transmitting the disease that is often portrayed."

That is exactly the conclusion the authors reached in a book I read about 10 years ago: Return of the Black Death by Susan Scott & Christopher Duncan.

72 posted on 01/21/2023 9:50:17 AM PST by Inyo-Mono
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To: SunkenCiv

Read the source document. This isn’t based on testing performed on live rats, this is all based on computer modeling (as is MMGW). So garbage in, garbage out. They have absolutely ZERO mechanism to validate their conclusions, which therefore are no more valid than their original hypotheses.


73 posted on 01/21/2023 9:58:41 AM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: SunkenCiv

Saw a British program a while back that produced evidence that body lice, which there was plenty of back then, was a major reason the plague spread so quickly.


77 posted on 01/21/2023 10:43:48 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: SunkenCiv

It came out from a lab in Wuhan? Dr. Fauci’s ancestors fund it... 🤓


80 posted on 01/21/2023 1:57:55 PM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Defund the FBI, the American Stasi.. Hello 2023, can we get over 2020 yet? )
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