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Ukraine war: Blinken says China may give weapons to Russia (+ flight tracking update: Chinese Air Force military transport plane en route to Russia right now...)
BBC ^ | 2/19/2023 | Samuel Horti

Posted on 02/19/2023 2:17:52 PM PST by marcusmaximus

China is considering giving Russia weapons and ammunition for the Ukraine war, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken has said.

Mr Blinken told CBS News that Chinese companies were already providing "non-lethal support" to Russia - and new information suggested Beijing could provide "lethal support".

This escalation would mean "serious consequences" for China, he warned.

China has denied reports that Moscow has requested military equipment.

Chinese President Xi Jinping is an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin and is yet to condemn Russia's invasion - but he has sought to remain neutral in the conflict and has called for peace.

China's foreign ministry said it would not accept "finger pointing" and "coercion" from the US over its relations with Russia.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


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1 posted on 02/19/2023 2:17:52 PM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

So what?


2 posted on 02/19/2023 2:19:37 PM PST by dforest (All of America has derailed.)
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To: marcusmaximus

China wants to be sanctioned, too. That’s great news for the American job market as we take back the jobs we gave to China over the past thirty years.


3 posted on 02/19/2023 2:20:15 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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So?


4 posted on 02/19/2023 2:20:47 PM PST by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: dforest

Now you’re cheering for Xi, not just Putin.


5 posted on 02/19/2023 2:20:54 PM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

Hey! Only we’re allowed to meddle in foreign wars and spread weapons in war zones!

Stop it, China!


6 posted on 02/19/2023 2:23:26 PM PST by PGR88 (, )
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To: marcusmaximus

Are you surprised? We got 30 countries flooding weapons into Ukraine.


7 posted on 02/19/2023 2:24:54 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: marcusmaximus

It is no different than when we send giant planes like this loaded with weapons to Poland for use in Ukraine.

I ignore your false claims about cheering for anyone. It is you who does that.

It is your boy Joe Biden and Hunter who are all buddies with Xi.


8 posted on 02/19/2023 2:26:13 PM PST by dforest (All of America has derailed.)
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To: MeganC

“China wants to be sanctioned, too. That’s great news for the American job market as we take back the jobs we gave to China over the past thirty years.”

for sure. we don’t need to buy chinese products...


9 posted on 02/19/2023 2:27:15 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: marcusmaximus

One plane?

The only way the ChiComs can help Russia is if they send mile long freight trains loaded with ordinance. Lots of them.


10 posted on 02/19/2023 2:27:28 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: dforest

Biden gave your Putin the greenlight to invade Ukraine in a “minor incursion” and Putin and his crappy military screwed it all up and now he’s begging China for weapons. And the Biden family took more bribes from the Moscow mayor’s wife than from Burisa. And that doesn’t include the free Russian hookers for Hunter.


11 posted on 02/19/2023 2:28:25 PM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

How stupid are people that didn’t see the enemy of my enemy is my friend. This is very bad news.


12 posted on 02/19/2023 2:28:58 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (I am a lesbian trapped in a man's body... gives me more rights. )
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Hopefully China will wisen up and decide to fly to Turkey instead. They don’t need to escalate the situation.


13 posted on 02/19/2023 2:30:46 PM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: MeganC

Obviously, China knows the sanctions will only be symbolic. Do you think they would do this and put their entire economy at risk? Of course, not.


14 posted on 02/19/2023 2:32:26 PM PST by McCarthysGhost (q)
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To: dforest

Donald Trump Says Joe Biden’s Remarks Gave Russia the ‘Green Light’ on Ukraine

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-biden-russia-ukraine-green-light-invasion-1671488


15 posted on 02/19/2023 2:32:31 PM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: MeganC

Good grief. Have you no brain? We no longer are set up to produce even a tiny amount of what we have outsourced to China. We don’t even produce the bulk of our medicine.

That phone or computer you use was probably made in China.


16 posted on 02/19/2023 2:32:43 PM PST by dforest (All of America has derailed.)
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To: marcusmaximus

If the Neocons didn’t want China being in an alliance with Russia, perhaps they should have NOT triggered the Ukraine War.

Oh well, too late now!!!


17 posted on 02/19/2023 2:32:46 PM PST by BobL
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To: marcusmaximus

So what?


18 posted on 02/19/2023 2:33:51 PM PST by dforest (All of America has derailed.)
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To: marcusmaximus; Paul R.; Bruce Campbells Chin; PIF; familyop; MercyFlush; tet68; BeauBo; TalBlack; ..
Ukraine ping

There's a longstanding myth of peasants in black pajamas and rusty rifles outlasting GI's in South Vietnam. The reality is more prosaic. Communist North Vietnam received amounts of equipment dwarfing what has been sent to Ukraine so far. The record of Chinese aid to North Vietnam:

Military aid given to North Vietnam by China[3]: 379 
YearGunsArtillery piecesBulletsArtillery shellsRadio transmittersTelephonesTanksPlanesAutomobiles
196480,5001,20525,240,000335,0004262,941161825
1965220,7674,439114,010,0001,800,0002,7799,502?2114
1966141,5313,362178,120,0001,066,0001,5682,235??96
1967146,6003,984147,000,0001,363,0002,4642,2892670435
1968219,8997,087247,920,0002,082,0001,8543,31318?454
1969139,9003,906119,117,0001,357,0002,2103,453??162
1970101,8002,21229,010,000397,0009501,600???
1971143,1007,89857,190,0001,899,0002,4644,4248044,011
1972189,0009,23840,000,0002,210,0004,3705,905220148,758
1973233,5009,91240,000,0002,210,0004,3356,447120361,210
1974164,5006,40630,000,0001,390,0005,1484,66380?506
1975141,8004,88020,600,000965,0002,2402,150?20?
Total1,922,89764,5291,048,207,00017,074,00030,80848,92256016415,771

The Russians were even more generous. The Russian government website Russia Beyond reports

Throughout the war, Moscow provided Hanoi with 95 S-75 air defense missile systems, over 500 airplanes, 120 helicopters, more than 5,000 anti-aircraft guns and 2,000 tanks. In addition, more than 10,000 Soviet military specialists were dispatched to Vietnam: from missile crews, pilots and signalmen to tank crews and doctors.

Individually, Russian and Chinese aid to North Vietnam exceeds the combined contributions of the EU and the US to Ukraine. Their single-minded focus on killing GI's in Vietnam is impressive as US and EU hesitancy re weapons shipments to Ukraine is not.

19 posted on 02/19/2023 2:34:10 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: dforest

‘Why did the mayor of Moscow’s wife give the Bidens — both of them — $3.5 million? That’s a lot of money,’ Trump in a 30-second clip on the Voice of America program.

‘She gave him $3.5 million. So now I would think Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.’

Trump was referring to a 2020 report by Senate Republicans that claimed Yelena Baturina, one of Russia’s billionaire oligarchs, gave the hefty sum to a company called Rosemont Seneca Thorton as part of a ‘consultancy agreement.’

‘Breaking News: Russia just sanctioned Joe Biden. While that is a terrible thing, in so many ways, perhaps it will now be explained why the Biden family received 3.5 million dollars from the very wealthy former Mayor of Moscow’s wife,’ Trump said in a March 15 statement.

Days later, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki was grilled over why Baturina had not yet been sanctioned by the US over Russia’s attack despite her apparent ties to the Kremlin — and whether Biden indeed was conflicted.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10664487/Trump-urges-Putin-hand-related-Hunter-Bidens-dealings-Russian-oligarchs.html


20 posted on 02/19/2023 2:35:07 PM PST by marcusmaximus
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