You have the right to live with people who believe in freedom, justice and rule of law. Separate.
Secession.
The correct spelling is secession.
The Founders would agree that the present government “ denies those rights “.
It is despotic, and does not represent the will of anyone but the elitists.
Deo Vindice !!!
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Can you do it if you can’t spell it?
If you dissolve the United States “They” win. Their next step will be to take over whatever you have left, and if you can’t keep what you have now how will you keep what you have left?
I don’t believe the map drills down far enough. There is a lot of purple at the county/precinct level. Any civil war won’t be state against state, it will be neighbor against neighbor. It will be more like the Irish Troubles than the American War Between The States.
The Declaration of Independence was followed by the War for Independence.
Secession would lead to war, as it did in 1861.
Further, you need a Robert Morris to finance secession.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Morris_(financier)
Robert Morris Jr. (January 20, 1734 – May 8, 1806) was an English-born merchant and a Founding Father of the United States. He served as a member of the Pennsylvania legislature, the Second Continental Congress, and the United States Senate, and he was a signer of the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation, and the United States Constitution. From 1781 to 1784, he served as the Superintendent of Finance of the United States, becoming known as the “Financier of the Revolution.” Along with Alexander Hamilton and Albert Gallatin, he is widely regarded as one of the founders of the financial system of the United States.
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Morris’s shipping firm was just one of many such firms operating in Philadelphia, but Willing Morris & Company pursued several innovative strategies. The firm pooled with other shipping firms to insure vessels, aggressively expanded trade with India, and underwrote government projects through bonds and promissory notes.[11] Ships of the firm traded with India, the Levant, the West Indies, Spanish Cuba, Spain, and Italy. The firm’s business of import, export, and general agency made it one of the most prosperous in Pennsylvania. In 1784, Morris, with other investors, underwrote the voyage of the ship Empress of China, the first American vessel to visit the Chinese mainland.
Our Founders thought they’d limited gov’t enough to protect our freedom. They didn’t. Red States are not as red as they should be. As an Idaho resident I can speak to that.
I look at the current situation & don’t know what would possibly make a difference. An Article V Convention has its drawbacks, & it also has its possibilities. But I don’t think it would be taken far enough to really limit FedGov. And the states individually need limits to powers as well. We are always going to be fighting people with too much money & either ill intentions or misguided good intentions.
In the final days before the Civil War, heated opinions did or did not advocate the right of secession, but none could point to specific language in the Constitution, Federalist Papers, or James Madison’s notes to the Constitutional debates of 1787 saying states could not secede. Instead, one found language supporting peaceful secession.
However, as he took office Lincoln was determined to preserve the Union and in his inaugural address said, “In your hands, my dissatisfied fellow countrymen, and not in mine, is the momentous issue of civil war. The government will not assail you. You can have no conflict without being yourselves the aggressors. You have no oath registered in Heaven to destroy the government, while I shall have the most solemn one to "preserve, protect, and defend it."
Finally, though, disunion was determined by the Southern states, and most particularly South Carolina’s, violent seizure, and destruction of federal property at Fort Sumter independent of any formal or covert discussions of political proprieties.
Build political and combat power.
Dinner tables, to living rooms, to patios, to campfires, to county-level rendezvous. All across the nation. Red, White, and Blueprint on steroids. There would have to be a platform to pull everyone together, cross all platforms, united under a single compact.
The only other option is to enjoy the ride all the way down to the destruction of the republic.
But every conservative with a platform wants to cash in and make money, the Tea Party has shot is wad, and we like our entertainment, normalcy bias, and addictions.
So the rub is, it will never happen. Let’s enjoy the ride until the US dollar loses world reserve currency status (in the works).
US acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.I see people still think the US is ideologically split by region, and that the left can be appeased by a form of land-for-peace when the left wants the whole thing—that is why they set their sights on DC first and worked their way down.
— Communist goal #1
If we had some kind of secession, the leftist faction would go with much of the rest of the nations in this world except for maybe Israel to the United Nations and call for boycotts, embargos, and even sanctions against the right leaning breakaway. We would be treated much the same way Rhodesia was in 1965 when they declared independence from Britain.
What image????
Wow. Start off a thread with a title with total misspelling of the proper word with a misspelled homonym. Which was the key word.
Secession isn't going to work. People are going to be crossing boundaries everyday and going through customs every day. Goods crossing the border will be held up, inspected, and taxed. The ports would all be in the hands of the blue counties. Red counties and blue counties will fight over land and resources, and the dividing lines will run through most counties, not between them. Red counties will develop industries of their own, reduplicating what already exists on the other side, and the more the red counties invite corporations in the more they become like the blue counties. The result will be a lower standard of living and more aggravation all around. We won't know how much we benefitted from being part of the United States until we have lost it.
Secession needs to be state by state, not county by county.
“The withdrawal of a State from a league has no revolutionary or insurrectionary characteristic. The government of the State remains unchanged as to all internal affairs. It is only its external or confederate relations that are altered. To term this action of a Sovereign a ‘rebellion’ is a gross abuse of language.”
“Secession belongs to a different class of remedies. It is to be justified upon the basis that the States are Sovereign. There was a time when none denied it. I hope the time may come again, when a better comprehension of the theory of our Government, and the inalienable rights of the people of the States, will prevent any one from denying that each State is a Sovereign, and thus may reclaim the grants which it has made to any agent whomsoever.”
Jefferson Davis
If you’re going to post a vanity with a graphic, at least make it so we can see the graphic. Am I the only one who cannot see it?