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Microsoft will upgrade Windows 10 21H2 users whether they like it or not -- Also, Windows 12 might be on the way, so buckle up
The Register ^ | May 15, 2023 | Jeff Burt

Posted on 05/15/2023 7:27:58 PM PDT by dayglored

Those still using Windows 10 version 21H2 have about a month until support ends, which means there will be no more security updates or other measures after that.

Their options essentially are to upgrade to Windows 10 22H2 or make the move to Windows 11, which would make Microsoft happy.

Servicing and support for the Windows 10 21H1 Home, Pro, Pro Education, and Pro Workstation editions ends June 13, with the June 2023 security update – due out that same day – being the last one for those editions.

"After this date, devices running these versions will no longer receive monthly security and preview updates containing protections from the latest security threats," Redmond writes in a reminder.

And no worries if you forget to upgrade the OS. Microsoft says it will automatically update those using Microsoft 10 21H1 to a supported version of Windows. You're welcome.

The automatic update is for "consumer devices and non-managed business devices that are at, or within several months of, reaching end of servicing," Microsoft adds. "This keeps your device supported and receiving monthly updates that are critical to security and ecosystem health."

The timeline for the forced changeover is unclear, though the company says users can choose a time for the upgrade that is convenient to them.

Microsoft reckons users should upgrade to at least the latest version of Windows 10 but no doubt would like to convince as many as possible to make the leap to Windows 11. According to StatCounter, Windows 10 is still used by more people than any other version of the operating system, by a large margin.

Over the last 12 months, use of Windows 10 has remained relatively steady, reaching about 71 percent last month. It was just over 73 percent in March 2022. Meanwhile, Windows 11 use has jumped from almost 9 percent in March to 23 percent in April.

At least use of Windows 7 and 8.1 continue to fall.

Windows 10 22H2 is the last version of Windows 10 and support for it will continue until October 2025.

No OS iteration lasts forever. Even as Windows 10 continues to wind down and Microsoft makes the push for Windows 11, the speculation – Microsoft hasn't confirmed anything – is that Windows 12 could make its debut next year, three years after Windows 11 came onto the market. ®


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: microsoft; windohs; windows; windows10; windows11; windows12; windowsupdate
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The march of progress. Or so they tell me.
1 posted on 05/15/2023 7:27:58 PM PDT by dayglored
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To: Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; AppyPappy; arnoldc1; ATOMIC_PUNK; bajabaja; ...
Windows 11 Update... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

2 posted on 05/15/2023 7:29:30 PM PDT by dayglored (Strange Women Lying In Ponds Distributing Swords! Arthur Pendragon in 2024)
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To: dayglored

My Win10 machines are at 22H2 (the latest) and it’s okay. But the folks who are running Win11, and aren’t Microsoft fanbois, are not impressed. So I’m sticking with Win10 22H2 as long as I can.


3 posted on 05/15/2023 7:31:36 PM PDT by dayglored (Strange Women Lying In Ponds Distributing Swords! Arthur Pendragon in 2024)
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To: dayglored

Of course there’s also my Win7 workhorse but we don’t let that one on the Internet lest it catch something nasty... It’s for local use only.


4 posted on 05/15/2023 7:33:52 PM PDT by dayglored (Strange Women Lying In Ponds Distributing Swords! Arthur Pendragon in 2024)
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To: dayglored

It’s a bit off-topic, but since you brought Windows up…

I really like my Windows XP machine (yes, it’s old and I’m old). I use it mainly for word processing.

I recently looked at a few Windows 10 and 11 machines. They all seem to be app-based. And it seems like you can only download new stuff from the Microsoft App Store. Oh, and you can only rent Microsoft Word now.

I don’t like all that. I like the older way better.

My question: Is there an option with the newer machines to make their desktop behave like an older one?
Thanks.


5 posted on 05/15/2023 7:37:36 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Leaning Right

The short answer is....No.

Resistance is Futile.


6 posted on 05/15/2023 7:48:05 PM PDT by Spaceman61
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To: dayglored

Promises promises... both of my windows machines, which are still perfectly viable and run every app properly are DENIED promotion to Windows 11 because the bios isn’t supported.

So... their loss.


7 posted on 05/15/2023 7:50:05 PM PDT by Skywise
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To: dayglored

“”there’s also my Win7 workhorse but we don’t let that one on the Internet lest it catch something nasty... It’s for local use only.””

Exxxxxxxxcellent!

We have a Win 7 disc. We can install on any computer. It works great for what we need. We backup everything, so if something should occur, we can just wipe the drive and start again.

I started teaching computers when Win 3.1 was new. Even used to use DOS before that. There are still all kinds of keyboards shortcuts that function in whatever Win version you might use. When someone notices I perform certain things without the mouse, they are baffled. Some are open to learning. Others are just lazy leftists.


8 posted on 05/15/2023 7:52:05 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: dayglored

In a world without walls, who needs windows?


9 posted on 05/15/2023 7:53:19 PM PDT by null and void (Be gentle with each other. You never know what someone is going through.)
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To: dayglored

I have one machine running 10 and another running 11. They both work OK and there’s not much difference.


10 posted on 05/15/2023 7:54:38 PM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: Leaning Right

They made File Explorer as dysfunctional as possible. They eliminated the Copy to and Move To functions in it which was very handy. Now it’s highlight, drag, and pray, as far as moving files around goes. They also made the Start Menu a nightmare right in the middle of the screen and hardly anything in their entire W/11 layout was left alone. They did this stunt with XP, W/10, and 11. Usually by now they would have restored Classic layouts. This time they aren’t listening. I upgraded a laptop from 10 to 11 and was sorry I did it. Very frustrating.


11 posted on 05/15/2023 7:55:19 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: dayglored

I’m still using Windows 10 and the non-stop nagging from Microsoft to upgrade is so annoying.


12 posted on 05/15/2023 7:55:25 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Leaning Right
> My question: Is there an option with the newer machines to make their desktop behave like an older one?

I personally like the Classic Windows 2000 desktop look/feel. I found it quick, intuitive, functional, and visually pleasing. So I decided I'd try to make any later releases look like Win2K.

When XP came out I "brain damaged" the new UI back into Win2K by disabling new features, simplifying the desktop, etc.

I skipped Vista.

When Win7 came out I did the same "brain damage" as on XP. It was a little more complex, disabling the Aero crap and other "features", but still quite possible. Other people would come up behind me and ask me why I was still running Windows 2000 almost 20 years later. I knew then I was succeeding.

Windows 10 was much more of a challenge, but happily, a savior wrote and released "Classic Shell" which allow you to choose a Start Menu that looks like the Classic one. That and the usual brain damage pretty much did the trick -- my Win10 machines look and feel pretty much like Win2K still. Not identical, but close enough that it still fools other people.

So the answer to your question is, "Yes, but it's not an 'option'. You have to add Classic Shell and do some work to remove the stupid crap MS has layered onto the UI over the years."

13 posted on 05/15/2023 7:56:30 PM PDT by dayglored (Strange Women Lying In Ponds Distributing Swords! Arthur Pendragon in 2024)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

“When someone notices I perform certain things without the mouse, they are baffled.”

I took a short but intense MS Word test for a job interview while being monitored. Zip zip zip, “I’m finished.”

They didn’t believe me ‘cause I hadn’t touched the mouse once.

I try to use Hubby’s Windows 10, and that Office 365, but the keystrokes found all work. Sticking to Windows 7 and Office 2003, thank you very much.


14 posted on 05/15/2023 7:57:57 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Worrying doesn't take away tomorrow's troubles. It takes away today's peace.)
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To: dayglored
I'm tired of fighting the whole privacy issues with Windows OS. I'm at 22H2 (Win 10 Pro), but this will be the last Windows OS I use.

I have until October 2025, so almost 2.5 years. At that point, my Windows PC will be offline for those apps I can't find replacement for with Linux, and the rest plus browsing plus online account access will be with Linux.

15 posted on 05/15/2023 8:01:08 PM PDT by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: dayglored

Yep, Classic Shell (now Open Shell) is absolutely needed for Windows 10. I probably haven’t disabled the UI as much as you have, but I’ve done quite a bit. That plus a lot of Windows disabling (starting with Cortana).


16 posted on 05/15/2023 8:07:50 PM PDT by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: dayglored

Thank you for the detailed response. I guess my best bet is to look for a good used Windows 7 machine.

Either that or hit the lottery, and buy Bill Gates out. Then I’ll run Microsoft the way it should be run. 👍


17 posted on 05/15/2023 8:36:57 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: dayglored

“At least use of Windows 7 and 8.1 continue to fall. “

Still happily running 7 pro on two computers, trouble free, and update free.

At leat my wife has stopped complaining of MS forced updating her 10 laptop and freezing things up.


18 posted on 05/15/2023 8:37:45 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (Let's go Brandon)
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To: cva66snipe

When you say the start menu is right in the middle of the screen, what do you mean?


19 posted on 05/15/2023 8:43:02 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Leaning Right

Not entirely & you have to work at it.
You can buy MS Office Home and Business as a one time purchase.
The newest versions of Word suck big-time, though.


20 posted on 05/15/2023 8:46:29 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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