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Ukraine has squeezed out of the US Patriot missile system a capability that the Pentagon did not think possible, military analyst says
Yahoo ^ | may 27 2023 | Alia Shoaib

Posted on 05/28/2023 4:11:18 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

The Patriot is the main air defense system that the US has in its arsenal, with the capability to track 100 targets from 60 miles away.

Last week, Fabian Hoffmann, a doctoral research fellow at the Oslo Nuclear Project, told UK's Sky News that after Ukraine recently claimed to have repelled multiple Russian hypersonic Kinzhal missiles, Russia has "never looked weaker."

"This is a truly remarkable development," he said

Hoffmann added, in a tweet, "The fact that Ukraine was able to defend this attack is amazing, in my opinion, whether the final interception rate is 90% or 100%."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: antiaircraft; missile; patriot
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Focus like a laser is nothing compared to your concentration to find cover on an incoming.

With a mortar, you have a few seconds from when you hear the tube to hopefully find some cover.

The Patriot system sees them coming in from miles out...

An excellent detailed talk on the Patriot system. The speaker is a former US Army E-7. https://youtu.be/RDJgQErMSdA

1 posted on 05/28/2023 4:11:18 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

amazin’


2 posted on 05/28/2023 4:12:58 PM PDT by Third Person
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I work with a guy at BAE who demonstrated a system to the Army, mounted on a Bradley, that could shoot down an RPG. It did not have to be pointed at the RPG when it was fired. It would have cost more than the Bradley, and would have been the only mission the Bradley could perform, but still, impressive.


3 posted on 05/28/2023 4:16:12 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.)
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Sounds like the Ukrainians re-engineered the Patriot system and now it works far better than the IDIOTS at Raytheon designed it.

...and all done in 2 weeks!!!

Hmmm.


4 posted on 05/28/2023 4:19:39 PM PDT by BobL
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Here is a very good explanation of the system.

Try it you might like it.

https://youtu.be/RDJgQErMSdA


5 posted on 05/28/2023 4:23:59 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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“Here is a very good explanation of the system.”

Thanks, but I’ll stick with the Ukrainian MIRACLE WORKERS line - gives me hope!!!


6 posted on 05/28/2023 4:26:05 PM PDT by BobL
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Nobody is blinder than the person who decides he does not want to see.


7 posted on 05/28/2023 4:29:44 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Maybe it’s just that the Kinzhal is not all it was claimed to be.


8 posted on 05/28/2023 4:30:18 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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Sounds like the Ukrainians re-engineered the Patriot system and now it works far better than the IDIOTS at Raytheon designed it.

I was working at Raytheon when the Equipment Division merged with Missile Systems, around 1998. Our systems engineering department was merged with the Patriot systems engineering. We had dozens of systems in our portfolio, COBRA DANE, ROTHR, PAVE PAWS, BMEWS, inter alia. Patriot was bigger than all of them combined. Those guys were sharp, they knew their stuff and produced the finest, most reliable SAM system ever produced. There were no hypersonic Russian, or other missiles at the time. New users extended a very successful design to new uses.

9 posted on 05/28/2023 4:30:24 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Exactly.


10 posted on 05/28/2023 4:33:02 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: ad ferre non, velit esse sine defensione)
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“Nobody is blinder than the person who decides he does not want to see.”

Let me guess, the Ukrainians borrowed a Revolutionary War tactic: “Don’t shoot until you see the Whites of their Guidance Systems!”


11 posted on 05/28/2023 4:34:42 PM PDT by BobL
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“I was working at Raytheon when the Equipment Division merged with Missile Systems, around 1998.”

Link please.


12 posted on 05/28/2023 4:35:06 PM PDT by BobL
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Reality check, for those remaining few freepers who still value reality.

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/latest-headlines-digest-the-wests


13 posted on 05/28/2023 4:37:33 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Ukraine has squeezed out of the US Patriot missile system a capability that the Pentagon did not think possible, military analyst says

I have two choices here:

1. Ukraine has defied the laws of physics.
2. Ukraine is full of shit.

I'll take door #2.

14 posted on 05/28/2023 4:40:01 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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I personally don’t care if they re-engineered it. But it means to me they know the system top to bottom. We opened it up and gave them the keys to it.

Because hey, they are our “friends” we gave them, with the open, enthusiastic, anti-American grifting support of this putrid Administration the keys to whatever hardware and software keys they needed.

Because, hey. They are our FRIENDS.

So, decades of secrecy trying to protect it as much as perhaps, Raytheon may have tried as a corporate entity, is for nothing.

And Ukraine is only our “friend” as long as they get money from us, and lots of it. Which means they aren’t our friends.

Which means it won’t be long until our enemies have it and know how to defeat it.

Ukraine is one of the largest kleptocratic oligarchical countries in the world, so “Nice defensive missile system you got there. Wouldn’t want anything bad to happen to its capabilities.” is an integral part of their script.


15 posted on 05/28/2023 4:40:54 PM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: BobL

https://www.referenceforbusiness.com/history2/44/Raytheon-Company.html

In early 1995 the company created Raytheon Electronic Systems from the merger of its Missile Systems Division and Equipment Division.


16 posted on 05/28/2023 4:43:14 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

#3 the ability was there and just not announced to potential enemies.


17 posted on 05/28/2023 4:44:37 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Starve the beast and steal its food!)
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"Ukraine has squeezed out of the US Patriot missile system a capability that the Pentagon did not think possible, military analyst says"

Patriot anti-ballistic missile. Is this the same kind of ABM system that in the Reagan era demRATs claimed could never work?
18 posted on 05/28/2023 4:53:20 PM PDT by clearcarbon (Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
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#4 Could be the quality of their education system far surpasses ours and they can still do things with pencils and sliderules that we can’t do without computers and endless VR simulations.


19 posted on 05/28/2023 4:57:32 PM PDT by pfflier
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“Ukraine recently claimed”

They claim alot.

20 posted on 05/28/2023 5:03:21 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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