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‘Titanic’ Director And Diving Expert James Cameron Explains Why The Titan Sub Imploded Underwater
Daily Wire ^ | 6/22/23 | Daily Wire News

Posted on 06/23/2023 4:46:32 AM PDT by spirited irish

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To: redfreedom

They went wilingly.....except for the kid.


61 posted on 06/23/2023 6:03:13 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Fresh Wind

Billions.


62 posted on 06/23/2023 6:04:08 AM PDT by bray (Dr Fauxi killed millions)
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh

Or a bug hitting your windshield


63 posted on 06/23/2023 6:06:08 AM PDT by diverteach (Pureblood proud and unashamed !)
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To: RummyChick

“but even I know you had better check if it can withstand pressure..

... and sustained over a large number of dive cycles. Titan had been to Titanic several times so it had demonstrated that it could withstand the pressure a few times. The fact it survived those few journeys doesn’t mean it could do it forever.

How many dive cycles could it withstand? We don’t know because apparently it was never fully and adequately tested for 3800 meters during development.


65 posted on 06/23/2023 6:10:27 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Actually James Cameron built his own sub and is one of the few people who has gone down into the Marianas Trench.

He is a liberal Hollywood director, but in this case Cameron knows what he is talking about.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/article/120325-james-cameron-mariana-trench-challenger-deepest-returns-science-sub


67 posted on 06/23/2023 6:11:50 AM PDT by sloanrb
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To: ping jockey
This is why John Walker SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE DEATH PENALTY and that POS son of his should not be enjoying his ownership of a fancy art gallery in Martha’s Vineyard.

Agree

68 posted on 06/23/2023 6:13:12 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: RummyChick

I’m sorry, but stupidity can and should hurt. I don’t blame the navy one bit here, these people were private individuals doing stupid things at great risk. The cost of a rescue mission in international waters for a for-profit business that wasn’t approved or inspected shouldn’t be the highest priority for them.

IMHO


69 posted on 06/23/2023 6:16:06 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

In a room with Kamila Harris.


70 posted on 06/23/2023 6:21:34 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: spirited irish

Implosions are extremely violent. Navy listening for submarine activity would have picked up the explosion. About 1 millisecond imploding and then it would blow like the fuel in a diesel engine with over 320 atmospheres of cylinder pressure. Human flesh and bone would be ash. No safety or distress signal could survive the “deployment.”


72 posted on 06/23/2023 6:23:58 AM PDT by IamConservative (I was nervous like the third chimp in line for the Ark after the rain started.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I remember I was in welding vocational trade school when it became public knowledge that the Russians had actually built a sub mostly out of titanium. Having spent weeks learning to weld the stuff myself I was impressed, but so was everyone else in the class.


73 posted on 06/23/2023 6:32:29 AM PDT by Aeneas2112 (YOU are your own first responder)
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To: spirited irish
Each end of the Carbon Fibre and Epoxy Composite Cylinder Pressure Hull Part, has epoxy'd to it, a titanium ring. To see that ring-to-hull assembly work take place, go to 4:05 / 20:44 of the video, 'The Titan Tragedy'.

A wide recess in the external circumference of the titanium ring design, is where a steel band that is a part of the external TITAN Cyclops 2 support structure, is wrapped around - 2 such bands, 1 front, and 1 rear, attaching the TITAN Cyclops 2 hull assembly to the support structure:

The titanium front end "bell" cap "hatch" part and the rear end "bell" cap part are bolted to their respective mating flanges of the aforementioned titanium rings. At 1:05 / 14:18 in video 'Missing Sub' . . ., you can see a port side view of an OceanGate Cyclops [1 or 2, I am uncertain], with the front "hatch" opened, and Stockton Rush sitting at the opening.

Looking at the opened "hatch" flange surface area, there appears to be a ring of some type, concentric with the flange circumference, that is probably a seal. No seal is apparent in the corresponding forward-facing flange surface of the titanium ring. The "hatch" flange and its mate, the titanium ring flange, are hinged together at the 9 o'clock position.

David Pogue, at 2:55 / 6:16 in video 'Safety is relative' says that there are 18 bolts that secure that "hatch," but only 17 bolts are used - the top-most bolt position at 12 o'clock, is apparently not used ("way up high, and they say there is really no mathematical difference"). [The bolt heads are 6-point, not 12-point in the images and videos that I have seen.]

The front end "bell" or cap part is unique in design - in contrast to the rear end "bell" or cap, in that, the front "bell" includes the viewing portal. And, during manufacturing of the titanium front end "bell" cap, some stress and potential for fatigue is introduced in forming the neck that you see in the image, that presents the base for attaching the viewing port assembly.

IMHO, the front "hatch" hinge, plus the missing 18th bolt at 12 o'clock, plus the stressed-neck of the "bell" adjacent to the viewing port, will all affect how the deep water pressure works to distort the "bell" shape of the front hatch. Distortion will affect the ability of the plane of the mated flanges to remain perpendicular to the central axis of the hull. That disruption can affect the integrity of the titanium ring and Carbon Fibre hull cylinder assembly.

74 posted on 06/23/2023 6:41:31 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: sloanrb

Cameron is well respected in the field of oceanic research and of deep-sea submersibles. I would trust his opinion over most amateurs postulating and certainly over the OceanGate CEO – may he and the 4 others RIP.


75 posted on 06/23/2023 6:50:45 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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To: RummyChick
The stupidity of this whole thing overwhelms me. A billionaire wasn't smart enough to make sure this thing could withstand the pressure.

as my Mother used to tell me when I was little... "Just because someone has a LOT of MONEY doesn't mean they KNOW ANYTHING!"

76 posted on 06/23/2023 6:55:30 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh

🤣


77 posted on 06/23/2023 6:55:48 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Jesus is LORD and Savior! And Donald Trump is President of the United States of America.)
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To: bert

All rescue could have been right on top of the spot. Result would’ve been the same. There is no rescue at that depth


78 posted on 06/23/2023 7:03:30 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: linMcHlp
Thank-you for unfolding the construction of the sub and making known the elements that likely triggered the implosion.
79 posted on 06/23/2023 7:06:30 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: Red Badger

Well you aren’t informed

Buns o rings were used. They had oxidized over time and exposure. Rubber O rings are not used in space flight


80 posted on 06/23/2023 7:06:58 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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