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Supreme Court to consider if banning people under domestic violence restraining orders from having guns violates the Second Amendment
Daily Mail ^ | 6/30/23 | Dailymail.com Reporter, Reuters

Posted on 06/30/2023 3:29:23 PM PDT by Libloather

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1 posted on 06/30/2023 3:29:23 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Excellent. Another 6-3 decision in the wings.


2 posted on 06/30/2023 3:33:24 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself.)
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To: Libloather

...shall not be infringed.


3 posted on 06/30/2023 3:35:32 PM PDT by Delta 21 (MAGA Republican is my pronoun.)
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To: Libloather

Take out a restraining order — and get a gun.

I understand that someone may be afraid of their partner. But they limit the partner’s movement with the restraining order (seems acceptable to me) but they should not ALSO take away a Constitutional right. Get yourself a gun and take responsibility for your own situation.


4 posted on 06/30/2023 3:35:44 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's not a government. It's a criminal enterprise. Fear it, but do not respect it.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

“Dirty Frankie” Lautenberg will crawl out of his New Jersey crypt in OUTRAGE if the Supremes stake his undead shell with a ruling against his slimy, unconstitutional legislation.


5 posted on 06/30/2023 3:36:20 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: ClearCase_guy

one is an excellent tool that can be used to protect yourself.

the other is a piece of paper that makes awful toilet paper.


6 posted on 06/30/2023 3:40:55 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: Libloather

My former wife took out a restraining order against me after and . A woman judge (California) found that there was no domestic violence, but rather a disturbing the peace charge. She also agreed my ex was a loose cannon. But because of the restraining order, I have not been able to own a gun for the last twenty years.


7 posted on 06/30/2023 3:44:17 PM PDT by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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To: Libloather

It’s a complete deprivation of rights without due process.


8 posted on 06/30/2023 3:55:09 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Huskrrrr

Would this upcoming decision change your situation? Plenty of really neato firearms out there.


9 posted on 06/30/2023 4:22:40 PM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: Libloather

I believe this would change my situation. I may own my first gun later this year.


10 posted on 06/30/2023 4:28:19 PM PDT by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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To: Libloather

No right is absolute. If you are imprisoned, for example, you can’t carry. If you are in a crowd you can’t incite a riot. No weapons may be a condition if your parole. You can’t use your freedom of speech to arrange a crime.

Domestic violence is a terrible thing but the subject of a restraining order has not had a trial with a jury of his peers. While I am sure that objectively some who have restraining orders placed on them are horrible and dangerous people, they have not been convicted of anything. We can’t have a society where anyone can accuse you of possible violence and your enumerated right vanishes.


11 posted on 06/30/2023 4:29:54 PM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: Huskrrrr

Perfect example of people agreeing with laws/rules they don’t understand. The government wants us all to be guilty of something so we are no longer citizens that have rights.


12 posted on 06/30/2023 4:41:57 PM PDT by wgmalabama (Censored !)
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To: Huskrrrr

The search could be fun. YouTube has plenty of videos on TONS of models. Picked up what I thought was a Henry H001l .22lr a few weeks back. Everything read it was 34” long. Mine is only 25” long. Come to find out I have a Mare’s Leg - designed after Steve McQueen’s rifle in TV’s Wanted Dead or Alive. It’s considered a pistol because of it’s length. Neato stuff I tell ya.


13 posted on 06/30/2023 4:46:22 PM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: Libloather

How it should work is that the one under threat should be allowed to defend themselves by shooting the abuser on sight.


14 posted on 06/30/2023 4:50:25 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: Huskrrrr

Just ignore it. butthead buyden did.


15 posted on 06/30/2023 4:51:07 PM PDT by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress!!!)
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To: Libloather

Per the Constitution Rights can be taken away .... after due process of law. A convicted person is not allowed to have his gun while serving time inside. It is Constitutional to take away guns after conviction.

If in road rage a drive yells at another driver it is not reasonable to take away the gun. But if in road rage a driver shoots at the other driver and misses, it is reasonable to take away his gun.... after due process of law.

Just as a jail sentence is for a certain period of time, so the gun punishment would reasonably be for a period of time dpenending the severity of the offense.


16 posted on 06/30/2023 4:53:52 PM PDT by spintreebob (ki .h g)
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To: Libloather

It does. There’s no “yes, but” in the second amendment.


17 posted on 06/30/2023 4:56:49 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (I do not recognize Biden’s authority. (@FeistyFed on TS) 🐝)
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To: Huskrrrr

As the law stands now it is unconstitutional for them to keep you from owning a gun


18 posted on 06/30/2023 4:58:42 PM PDT by Az Joe (Live free or die)
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To: Libloather

Lots of guys will plead guilty to domestic violence rather than risk going to prison for 5-10 years.

Plead guilty and they let you go with a misdemeanor, no jail time, and give up your right to own a firearm.

Makes no difference if you are innocent or guilty, even if your wife says her husband didn’t hit her.


19 posted on 06/30/2023 5:52:04 PM PDT by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Someone who has a restraining order against them, has not been tried or convicted of a crime.

So it is illegal to seize their personal property


20 posted on 06/30/2023 6:08:58 PM PDT by SPDSHDW (Ron DeSantis. The latest GOPe champion in a long list of winners. Jeb! Mitt Romney, and John McStain)
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