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Retired Navy pilot says unidentified aircraft ‘far superior’ to anything US could develop in next decade
Task & Purpose ^ | JEFF SCHOGOL

Posted on 07/29/2023 5:08:41 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

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To: RoosterRedux

Devil’s advocate.. doesn’t it benefits the US to propagate the story of UFOs to steer other countries from our real capabilities? Just a thought


21 posted on 07/29/2023 5:35:19 AM PDT by bike800
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To: Sirius Lee
Yep. Even though I admit that a Chinese drone is a possibility...the odds of it being a Chinese drone are extraordinarily tiny.

If China had this kind of technology, we would be speaking Mandarin and eating Stinky Tofu.

And if this were Russian technology, Putin would have stomped Zelenski into submission in an afternoon.

22 posted on 07/29/2023 5:35:47 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: V_TWIN

That’s why I own a little bit of Tesla.;-)


23 posted on 07/29/2023 5:36:42 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: bike800
I think that's a valid argument.

That said, the Pentagon is doing everything in its power to quash these UFO stories (though of course that could be a feint).

24 posted on 07/29/2023 5:38:52 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

Big foot...
Loch ness monster...
UFO’s...

We got satellites that can read the numbers on your credit card from outer space...
Yet, we can’t get a clear picture of any of the above...
Things that make you go Hmmmmm....


25 posted on 07/29/2023 5:38:56 AM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: RoosterRedux

“Assuming the Tic Tac was a physical object and not some sort of projection...”

It was read by indendent radar:

“An air controller quickly told Fravor that the object had been detected 60 miles away less than a minute after the Super Hornets had lost contact with it.”

They didn’t say whether the controller was military or civilian located so they were using either the civilian ASR-12 or the military AN/GPN-30. Both detect solid based objects and cannot read projections which have no solidity. So we can be sure if it was confirmed independently it was there.

wy69


26 posted on 07/29/2023 5:40:40 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: V_TWIN

I had this discussion with someone yesterday, would disclosing proof of extraterrestrials cause a worldwide panic, my feeling and our general consensus is that it would not cause any panic at all.

Years ago, when people universally trusted the government or other institutions, it did create some degree of panic.

When Orson Welles made his “War of the Worlds” radio broadcast it created panic, today I think the vast majority of people are so brain dead, so long as the existence of aliens didn’t interrupt their daily lives it would not create much panic.

Over the years this drip, drip of UFO information getting released has created a degree of normalcy about UFOs and Aliens.

I think what would create panic would be if the USA or some other country like China did reverse engineer some type of alien craft and demonstrated its existence to the world, especially if it did show a military capability at the same time.

Imagine here in the USA, if China released publicly proof of a craft demonstrating capabilities that we claim are not possible with our current understanding of physics, especially if it showed some type of offensive military capability.


27 posted on 07/29/2023 5:41:15 AM PDT by srmanuel ( )
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To: RoosterRedux

I think we’re going to need a “One World Government” to protect us from these terrible creatures who want to dissect and have sex with us.. (sniff)


28 posted on 07/29/2023 5:41:17 AM PDT by unread ("It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required." W. Churchill.)
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To: OKSooner

It is bizarre that UFO’s seem to take a form consistent with current human culture. Back in the late 1890’s, people saw a giant dirigible-shaped UFO crisscrossing the country.


29 posted on 07/29/2023 5:42:31 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: V_TWIN
To me extraterrestrials are like Bigfoot.....I’m gonna have to see it up close and personal to believe it.

Evidence is forthcoming, just have to put it together, some issues with security and clearances, there will be hearings, the truth is out there.

30 posted on 07/29/2023 5:44:36 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: srmanuel
The reason Wells' War of the Worlds broadcast caused panic wasn't only because it was aliens, but because they were engaged in a military invasion in small towns.

A radio broadcast about German and Japanese paratroopers landing across the country in a 1938 invasion would have caused people to freak out also.

31 posted on 07/29/2023 5:48:47 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

Add this to the growing list why the military is not to be trusted.


32 posted on 07/29/2023 5:51:07 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: RoosterRedux
I take exception to the implication that space begins at 80,000 feet. While thin, there is still plenty of atmosphere to keep aircraft aloft. For example, Alan Eustace set the current world record for highest and longest-distance free fall jump in 2014 when he jumped from 135,898 feet (41.422 km) from a balloon, which requires atmosphere for buoyancy.

One commonly recognized standard as to where true space begins is the Karman Line, beginning 100 km. above sea level (a little over 327,000 ft.). The US Air Force uses a standard of 50 miles (264,000 to award astronaut wings).

33 posted on 07/29/2023 5:52:57 AM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: RoosterRedux
Task and Purpose --- promoting Task & Purpose

"https://taskandpurpose.com/about-task-purpose/"

...storytelling.

On their about page, an interesting anomaly, as the editor's domain root for his email --

Editor-in-Chief: Marty Skovlund Jr. | marty.skovlund.jr@recurrent.io
...tells that he is associated with another media group, "recurrent."

Of "recurrent," they say "Recurrent brands build long-term brand equity through socially responsible storytelling and nimble business models. Our focus is to bring recurrent value to readers, business partners, and the planet."

Source: https://recurrent.io/who-we-are/

He's a busy fellow, active in lots of "stoytelling," as IMDB and five books on Amazon evidence, "Marty Skovlund, Jr. is a producer, writer, author and television personality. He is most well known for his role on History Channel's 'JFK Declassified' (2017), the award-winning feature documentary 'Nomadic Veterans' (2015), and the award-winning short narrative 'Prisoner of War' (2015). His writing can be found in multiple published books, as well as on major media outlets."

So, the notion of STORYTELLING is central.

34 posted on 07/29/2023 5:53:22 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Mouton
If Americans object to an area like D.C. being used for such a demonstration, might I recommend d'Ottawa? It's not too far away from D.C. and the 'people kinda of d'Ottawa are badly in need of 'political renewal'.

</sarc> (or maybe not!)


35 posted on 07/29/2023 5:54:20 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian ( Ceterum autem censeo Justinius True-dope-us esse delendam)
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To: V_TWIN
--- "The covid hysteria showed that people are far more impressionable than anyone ever thought. And if you remember, people that weren’t got hammered......this ufo thing just may be the next attempt to push people in a particular direction to advance the very real control and compliance agenda."

Kudos for the comment, so worth repeating.

36 posted on 07/29/2023 5:54:49 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: RoosterRedux

Good summary article on recent UAP testimony with source links. From Dr. Robert Malone.

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/congressional-hearing-on-uaps-include?r=ta0o1&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web


37 posted on 07/29/2023 5:55:39 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: unread
Aliens are probably going to dissect and eat our leaders first.

Except perhaps for Joe. He's past his sell-by date. They'll just turn him over to the Ancient Alien females so they can poke at him with their anal probes.

38 posted on 07/29/2023 5:56:06 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: MRadtke
I have heard Cmdr Fravor say in other interviews that, at that time at least, the Navy refers to 80,000 ft. as being the start of space because that's as high as their radar goes.

The tic-tac may have come in from a much higher altitude, but the USS Princeton and USS Nimitz sensors started tracking it at 80,000 ft.

39 posted on 07/29/2023 6:01:03 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Sirius Lee

Do you feel the same way about people who cry “We are doomed to lose to Communist China!” when they see the Communist aircraft carrier take to sea?

Even though when we look, for those of us who know what to look for, we see planes tied down with slack fabric tie-down straps rather than chains, that the planes they fly from the carrier are so severely handicapped performance-wise that they cannot take off with munitions and a full fuel load, and so on?

How about the people who look at the shining, tall cities like Shanghai and say the day of the West is done, and the day of the East has arrived, but fail to go 10 miles outside the city and see the absolute decay and destruction in all types of construction, not to mention the personal investment losses of people whose only path of investment was in that hoax, and while the losses to them are invisible to all but the Communist Chinese government, those losses are all too visible to those poor people who have lost what little money they have, and will never get it back.

In my opinion, there are people on both sides of this stupidity, and people who thing the Communist Chinese are the wave of the future and the West is full of handwringing loons are every bit as stupid and dangerous as those who think the Communist Chinese are some kind of country of supermen that is making technology so advanced that it appears to us stupid Westerners as alien technology.


40 posted on 07/29/2023 6:07:29 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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