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Retired Navy pilot says unidentified aircraft ‘far superior’ to anything US could develop in next decade
Task & Purpose ^ | JEFF SCHOGOL

Posted on 07/29/2023 5:08:41 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

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To: MRadtke
if it was 60 miles away in exactly one minute that would mean it was traveling at 600 miles per hour.

60 miles in one minute would be 3,600 miles per hour

61 posted on 07/29/2023 6:31:59 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: RoosterRedux

All science may not be settled, but certain things are. Just like there is truth and falsehoods. Thrush is truth, settled. Laws of nature are settled, despite enthusiasm for Hollywood inspired futures. Laws of gravity, settled. Planetary and orbital motion, settled. Newton’s laws, settled. Conservation of momentum, settled.


62 posted on 07/29/2023 6:35:12 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
Evidence: Expert witness testimony (under oath to Congress) and radar/sensor imagery from state-of-the-art systems on F/A-18's, E-2 Hawkeyes, and the USS Nimitz, and the Aegis-equipped USS Princeton.

Claims were made by one witness--a former official with the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency and the NRO--in the hearing on Wednesday of tangible evidence of a non-human vehicle that is to be presented to Congress in a SCIF. Yep, that's outrageous, but that's what's in the testimony.

63 posted on 07/29/2023 6:35:45 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Sounds like a Bum-Fight!;-)


64 posted on 07/29/2023 6:36:40 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Hot Tabasco

My bad, sorry. But I still don’t see anything here that can’t be explained by some very good ECM.


65 posted on 07/29/2023 6:38:43 AM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: RoosterRedux

They identify the shape of the object,has anyone provided an estimate of the SIZE of the objects?


66 posted on 07/29/2023 6:39:52 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: RoosterRedux

““For those who don’t realize, above 80,000 feet is space,” Fravor said “

Well, we can discount his expertise since space is 300,000 feet.


67 posted on 07/29/2023 6:40:05 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: V_TWIN

There are plenty of decent videos available showing these things.

I am not concluding what they are or where they are from…I am merely saying if you really want to see what the talk is about…the evidence is freely available.


68 posted on 07/29/2023 6:41:14 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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69 posted on 07/29/2023 6:43:51 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux
Hey! Now it becomes a question of which of the three of us is more incorrigible.

I nominate the squirrel.

70 posted on 07/29/2023 6:45:45 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: RoosterRedux

Unless I know the individual personally, I would have to assume they are part of the machine that serves the DS and not the constitution.


71 posted on 07/29/2023 6:47:48 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: srmanuel

“ had this discussion with someone yesterday, would disclosing proof of extraterrestrials cause a worldwide panic, my feeling and our general consensus is that it would not cause any panic at all.”

I don’t think it’s panic that is their concern. I think “people” would be pissed off. What they would be angered over is “frictionless” transportation and “free energy.”

Wars have been fought for decades over energy. The Middle East is “significant” because of energy. If we did not need Saudi oil (and their investment in US Treasuries) would anyone care about the Middle East? Knowing we can move frictionless from point A to B, how quickly would our energy economy shift?

Free energy at the levels required to move like this could free entire continents. Imagine using this energy to heat, cool, and desalinate water in Africa?

Yeah, people panicking would not be the issue. The economic and moral outrage about this being available for “70 years” and kept secret would ruin a lot of people who don’t want to be ruined.

I think that’s why we aren’t being told.


72 posted on 07/29/2023 6:51:03 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: RoosterRedux

While they might want to eat Joe…that would be like eating a shoe.

An advanced tech civilization would not consider us any more interesting than we do an ant farm.


73 posted on 07/29/2023 6:53:56 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: V_TWIN

“However, if they are real, informing the public at large would undoubtedly cause world wide mass hysteria.”

Our government loves nothing more than creating hysteria in the public. So it’s not real, or they’re hiding it for their own selfish reasons.


74 posted on 07/29/2023 6:56:08 AM PDT by MNDude (Once you remove "they would never" from your Trump shared a post on soci it all begins to make sense)
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To: Magnum44

I guess if you said the same thing in the 1500’s a lot of what we do today would be considered witchcraft.

Paradigm shifts happen all the time. We adjust and move on.


75 posted on 07/29/2023 6:56:50 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: V_TWIN

See my #72.


76 posted on 07/29/2023 7:03:53 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

Not really, just that in the 1500’s, these laws hadn’t been investigated. People thought the earth was the center of the universe out of self indulgence, not science. God gave us brains to explore his universe and understand the laws of the universe He created. There are still many mysteries God has left for us to understand, but many we have come to theorize, understand, and ultimately prove. When we think we see something that exists outside of those laws, it’s incumbent upon us to investigate what we might have observed incorrectly before we trash what we know to be true.

Making 90 degrees turns at high space is instantaneous changes in velocity that defy not only our technology and physics, but due to the g’s would kill any living creature were it possible. But UFO enthusiasts would have us believe that’s what we see. In fact, most of this stuff is sensor artifacts, code or hardware defects that clutter the screen. The only mystery about it is caused by the military not wanting the enemy to know such glitches exist so that they can’t be exploited in an attack.


77 posted on 07/29/2023 7:09:23 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Magnum44

“You can’t defy laws of nature.”

The “laws of nature” are in fact laws created by humans in their attempt to understand in nature.

What did scientists say the “laws of nature” were in 1723.

Your post is what I call “straightjacket science”—folks who believe science’s job is to freeze thinking in the current paradigm.

All great scientific thinkers had exactly the opposite view—they believed science laid a foundation for future discovery.


78 posted on 07/29/2023 7:09:25 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: V_TWIN

I used to think the same— people would lose their collective minds if we had actual contact with an interstellar species. I have to say, though, that I almost think now the response might be “Yeah, so?”


79 posted on 07/29/2023 7:10:16 AM PDT by drwoof
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To: Magnum44

In the 1800s every serious scientist believed man could never fly like birds.

They did the best they could with the information they had—it was not their fault they were in error.

What was unforgivable were those scientists who ridiculed anyone who thought such flight was possible.

Good scientists encouraged their students to keep working on future discoveries.


80 posted on 07/29/2023 7:11:49 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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