Posted on 08/21/2023 7:53:59 AM PDT by ShadowAce
“We lose 93 million Americans a day...”
With a total population of 1.1 billion, that means the US would be wiped out in about a week and 1/2.
I call Shenanigans!
Great/funny video!
Too funny!
A militia is of the people, not a government military. In order to be able to form a militia and respond to an emergency the people must have immediate access to arms and this shall not be infringed.
When have we not had the right to own arms? My understanding is that it’s been a right from the beginning - so it is what the founders intended.
That said, other than the people having the right to own arms, what is even more stark - the 2A openly declares the right of the people to form armed militia’s. To people in Europe this is nuts!
The other mistake they make is when they read “well regulated militia”, thinking “government controlled”. At the time of writing “well regulated” language was used to describe “correctly functioning”. So we’re able to own arms, form organized militia, and engage in activities to ensure they’re effective (training operations). This is considered radical in many places - but necessary to be a check against tyrannical government, which the rest of western society thinks is laughable for some unknown reason.
I came here from the UK as a teenager. Some of these concepts were completely foreign to me. It took a while for me to understand the ‘why’.
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Some of these concepts were completely foreign to me. It took a while for me to understand the ‘why’.
I don't think it is "for some unknown reason."
You have GREATLY overestimated the population of the US.
lol
“What is the definitive argument against the left’s saying the 2nd amendment is only for the “militia”?
I think the definitive might be the feds own laws. The first law being first amendment rights. And a federal politician has even more rights on that since they made a law that gives them the right to make promises that most likely can’t be kept affording them the opportunity to literally lie. But the second law is even more interesting.
Let’s define militia:
10 USC Ch. 12
§246. Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
In other words, anybody can even be a militia of one as long as they are able-bodied men 17 to 45 of age who are not part of the organized militia and apparently not women or have any restrictions attached to their membership of their unit like a federal conviction. (No guns so what good are they? All they can do is say stop, or I’ll say stop again)
Wy69
the definitive argument is that the 2nd amendment is an individual right - as SCOTUS has confirmed several times.
The militia was the “neighborhood watch” of its day.
lots of substantive thoughtful responses to my question posted earlier in the thread. I asked specifically as that was the question a group of liberals posed to me.
There is no magic pat answer for you.
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My pointy is to avoid the magic pat answers. You want to know something you are going to have to study it and make it a part of you.
IT IS A DEEP THING.
We have too many that are satisfied with shallow pat answers and no deep understanding. Because there is no depth to their understanding, they fold when challenged.
“What is the definitive argument against the left’s saying the 2nd amendment is only for the “militia”?
Penn and Teller explain it pretty well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4zE0K22zH8
Language warning (one word).
The Bill of Rights is about individual rights. The commies make the second one collective. So the state has a right to have an army. Absolute stupidity.
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Bkmk
Liberal overlord Terry McCaulliffe is the source for the "93 million people a day die from gun violence" quote. They consider him one of their smart ones. Video below:
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