Posted on 08/22/2023 8:57:05 AM PDT by RandFan
The Left used the court system to drag this out for decades. In California there’s at least one who was sentenced when Carter was president. I think there’s others with crimes going back that far as well.
They tried to take away the gas chamber and regulated lethal injection and tried to make sourcing the drugs impossible.
That is not law, that is not representative democracy. That’s tyranny.
We are talking about child rapists-murders, even murderer-necrophiliacs. Hard to imagine much worse yet they continue to live on the tax payers dime decades after conviction. Crime used to be an area where California Democrats and Republicans agreed. Republican representatives are all but extinct at the state and urban local levels now.
I respectfully disagree. Murderers are capable of calculation, and empirical evidence shows that the death penalty absolutely deters murder.
New York used to have a “three strikes and you’re out” law, which made the third violent felony conviction an automatic life sentence. Someone twice convicted of robbery had little incentive not to kill his next victim, and a great deal of incentive to do so. The only disincentive is the realization that the police might investigate a murder more vigorously than a robbery.
Hemp. Please do not tell me that hemp is unconstitutional.
In a state with no death penalty the judge should be able to add a suspended death penalty in case the state law changes to allow.
“making her Britain’s worst child murderer”
Well, maybe the worst convicted one. I’m sure there are plenty of more prolific abortionists walking free.
Jesus died for our sins, not to satisfy the judicial penalties that are owed by criminals in the here and now. If we extend your logic, then shouldn’t we also set all the thieves and rapists free, since Jesus died for them too?
Death is one thing. Reasonably protecting society quite another.
Civil society must deal with miscreants up to keeping unrepentant dangerous behind bars in protection of society. But the death penalty is not now in the “justice” equation. It is only in the unjust “vengeance” equation.
Governments shouldn’t kill people.
Being “Convicted” by a court really means very little today.
We used to call Cops “Peace Officers”, partly, because they kept people from settling scores.
I say give family members and other concerned folks hatchets, machetes, and blowtorches, and let them have at it.
Let them auction off their participatory places, and maybe add Pay-Per-View?
It’s a Reckoning, not Vengeance.
Vengeance, and forgiveness, are for G_d.
Not for me.
Jesus himself fulfilled the law - “every single jot and tittle”.
And he took the full punishment for ALL sins and crimes, “egregious” or not (1 John 2:2).
“Civil society must deal with miscreants up to keeping unrepentant dangerous behind bars in protection of society.”
Must we? Says who? For all of human history prior to the last 150 years or so, the death penalty and “protection of society” were equivalent. And that includes the entirety of the Biblical era, and most of the church era as well.
So did Jesus or a prophet send some update 150 years ago that changed things? I would like to see that communique...
“But the death penalty is not now in the “justice” equation. It is only in the unjust “vengeance” equation.”
So is making a thief pay reparations also “vengeance”? After all, didn’t Jesus die for them as well? If Jesus can pay the greatest penalty for us, then why not all the lesser penalties? Why is it only the death penalty gets your special attention?
But we know better, don't we?
But we know better, OR SHOULD...
I’m sorry, but I think you are looking at the world through the lenses of someone who grew up in a prosperous industrialized nation and are mistaking your situation for one that is generally applicable.
It has not been feasible for most people in most of the world throughout history to say “let’s lock this person up for the next 80 years of their life and pay all their expenses with no return on our investment, so that we don’t feel guilty about killing a murderer”. To think that is feasible reveals something about you, not about everyone else.
I agree, Why just child killers. Drug dealers end up causing child deaths too. Death by firing squad the day after they are arrested for selling drugs like other countries do.
Romans 13:1-4 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer.
The sword is for law enforcement. Under your paradigm, if murderers are not punished, then nobody should be.
Why punish any crime then? Just forgive it all.
How's that working out these days?
Besides, the God given death penalty predates the Law and stands outside it. So the accusation of living under the Law falls flat.
*about* should be *abound*
Romans 6:14.
Good scripture to memorize that sums up the New Covenant of Grace which you summarily ignore but which is taught in detail in Romans, Galation, Hebrews, and elsewhere in the NT.
I still think of Lee Rigby, whose throat was slashed with a cleaver, steps away from his army barracks, ten years ago by two islamists. The filthy murderers have both been making appeals of their life sentences for a beastly crime clearly witnessed by horrified bystanders.
Agree, end parole and probation, as they allow violent criminals to stay out of prison. Pack them in like sardines.
I’m recopying signed Robert James Bidinotto, Reader’s Digest articles, I have 5. This one is WHEN CRIMINALS GO FREE.
I posted a couple back years ago. Freed to Rape Again
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/719442/posts
Proverbs 18:5
You are wrong!
You also forget there is a hell awaiting all evildoers. Send them there sooner.
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