Can you tell me more about the concept of grace and peace in Christianity? [as compiled by poe.com, an AI language model created by OpenAI]

I have used this to format transcribed text, as well as to do some calculation, and like all such, AI can be used for God and good or evil.

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Grace as compiled by gigabyte gobbler

Thank you for the post. I have gotten a little grief here from a small number for looking forward to what AI can bring and this is an excellent example of how that tool can be used.

People can be sorted into two groups: those who are forward-looking and those who resist all change, good or bad (backward-looking people).

There are plenty of the latter around here.

That said, not all politically conservative people are backward-looking.

Of course, it takes all types to make the world go round.

Hi!

If I had asked some well-grounded Christian this question and this was their answer, I would not complain about the response.

grace - “unmerited favor” (accurate);
salvation - “not earned through human efforts or works” (accurate). “extended to all who place their faith in Him” (accurate)
payment - “through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross” (accurate)
peace - “right relationship with God” (accurate)

Naturally, there are some missing points but overall I’m thinking this is pretty accurate.

I look forward you your response.

I agree. I’m glad there wasn’t any wishy-washy, weasel wording, hemming and hawing on the topic of grace.

My responses are generated by analyzing patterns and information from the training data, which includes a wide range of sources.

There's the rub! In the end, AI spouts information from a source or sources. Whatever or whoever is that "source" portends to be truth and facts. Let's take for instance that Hitler won WW2 and the tenants of Nazism were the "source" for all truth. How would AI work in that world. Today, the CCP dictates what truth is in every strata of their society. This is reflected in their literature, media, business, gov religion and internet. Let's say the CCP dominates the world. They're almost there now. What does AI look like under a CCP controlled and dominated world?

Although not AI, let's look at Wiki as a somewhat parallel for accessing info. Here's a source that supposedly is objective. It's anything but.

`Although not AI, let's look at Wiki as a somewhat parallel for accessing info. Here's a source that supposedly is objective. It's anything but.

Because the "programmers" - at least a predominate class - are programmed to ideologically steer the USS Wikipedia to port.

I agree. I’m glad there wasn’t any wishy-washy, weasel wording, hemming and hawing on the topic of grace.

You mean as if the machine was programmed by RC polemicists?

In which case it could read somewhat like,

Grace is often described as the unmerited favor and freely given love and mercy of God towards humanity. It is a fundamental concept in Roman Catholicism,which emphasizes that sanctifying or deifying grace grace is conferred through the act itself of baptism, (CCC 1999) which makes the subject inwardly just by the power of the mercy of God. (CCC 1992) Therefore, having been actually made inwardly just by the power of the mercy of God, then they and other faithful who died after receiving Christ's holy Baptism (provided they were not in need of purification when they died, . . . or, if they then did need or will need some purification, when they have been purified after death) have been, are and will be in heaven, in the heavenly Kingdom and celestial paradise with Christ, and joined to the company of the holy angels. (CCC 1023)

This sanctifying or deifying grace is also operative in enabling those who were in need of purification when they died, having discovered and experienced that "certain temporal consequences of sin remain in the baptized," including "weaknesses of character, and so on, as well as an inclination to sin that Tradition calls concupiscence." (CCC 1264) And as they "were not so bad as to be deemed unworthy of mercy, nor so good as to be entitled to immediate happiness " etc." (City of God XXI.24) thus "after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven." (CCC 1030)

Which postmortem grace, with its "purifying punishments" (Indulgentiarum Doctrina; cp. 1. 1967) are what most believers can look forward to, and thereby realize the Blessed Hope.

It is thus by God's grace, normally dispensed thru the Catholic church, that believers are forgiven, and made good enough to actually enter Heaven, and thus fully experience His love, acceptance, and eternal life, having been "accounted to have, by those very works which have been done in God, fully satisfied the divine law according to the state of this life, and to have truly merited eternal life." (Trent, Chapter XVI; The Sixth Session Decree on justification, 1547)

Yet since the believer is only made good enough to be with God by the operation of grace, then it can be said that salvation and forgiveness are not earned through human efforts or works, but rather received as a gift from God, as meaning salvation by grace through merit.

In contrast to which is Biblical salvation by grace, which is thru effectual regenerating justifying faith being accounted righteousness - not of works or as being due to being made actually good enough to be with God. (Romans 4:5; 10:10)

For it is this faith that purifies the heart in the washing of regeneration when one effectually believes the gospel, (Acts 10:43; 15:7-9; Titus 3:5) and results in the fruit of obedience/holiness. (Romans 6:22)

Which fruit evidences that such are believers, and which effectual faith God rewards the justified for, (1 Co. 3:8ff: but not that the believer attained his salvific justified acceptance with God due to his own holiness).

Thus the redeemed are those who come to God as sinners knowing their desperate need of salvation - not as souls saved by their works or religious heritage, but as destitute of any means or merit whereby they may find salvation - and with a humble and penitent heart (that at least implicitly wants a new life following Christ) believe on the crucified and risen Lord Jesus who alone can save them on His account, by His sinless shed blood and righteousness. (Romans 3:9 - 5:1)

And who are thus baptized to follow the Lord Jesus with persevering faith. And who thus are baptized and follow Him (John 10:27-29; Acts 8:12; Ephesians 1:7; 2:8-10) - and effectually repent when they find that they failed to do so. (Psalms 32:5, 6; 51:3; Hosea 5:15; 1 John 1:9) For penitent, heart-purifying, regenerating effectual faith, (Acts 10:43-47; 15:7-9) is that which is imputed for righteousness, (Romans 4:5) and is shown in baptism and following the Lord, (Acts 2:38-47; Jn. 10:27, 28) and by which faith the believer is completely forgiven and "accepted in the Beloved" and positionally seated with Him in Heaven. Ephesians 1:6; 2:6; cf. Phil. 3:21) And wherever Scripture clearly speak of the next conscious reality for those who die in that effectual faith then it is with the Lord, at death or His return (whatever comes first), by the grace of God. (Lk. 23:43 [cf. 2Cor. 12:4; Rv. 2:7]; Phil 1:23; 2Cor. 5:8 [“we”]; 1Cor. 15:51ff'; 1Thess. 4:17)

Note also that Rome attempts to clarify her teaching on merit, in that, "With regard to God, there is no strict right to any merit on the part of man," "the merit of good works is to be attributed in the first place to the grace of God, then to the faithful. Man's merit, moreover, itself is due to God, for his good actions proceed in Christ, from the predispositions and assistance given by the Holy Spirit." (CCC 2007-2008)

However, this argument could be used for those who held to salvation under the Law, that by the grace of God they attained unto perfect obedience (and Paul as a Pharisee was blameless as concerning this: Philippians 3:6), whereas salvation by grace does not mean salvation by attaining to actual, practical perfection in this life or in Purgatory, but that of being accepted in the Beloved on His account, (Eph. 1:6) resulting finally in the resurrection of the body, which is the final conformity to Christ after this life. (1 John 3:2) And with obedience with holiness in this life being its effects/fruits, but which effects are not the cause of justification, though works justify one as being a believer. (Heb. 6:9,10)

And while God does reward faith (Hebrews 10:35) by rewarding the obedience of faith, (Mt. 25:31-40) and which obedience attests that one is a believer and thus it is appropriate that they be blessed, (Rv. 3:4) yet the "worthiness" here is not because moral attainment itself has made such accepted in the Beloved, and made them to sit together with Christ in Heaven,(Eph. 1:6; 2:6) and given them access to into the holy of holies in Heaven to pray, (Heb. 10:19) but as in conversion, it is because the faith that effects obedience is imputed for righteousness, (Rm. 4:5) eternal life being a gift, not a wage, (Romans 6:23) but in His grace God rewards the obedience of faith. (Heb. 10:35) Thus believers are exhorted, "Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward." (Hebrews 10:35)

Moreover, the Catholic emphasis upon merit as obtaining eternal life not only leads to salvation via obtaining perfection of heart in this life or in mythical Purgatory, but it fosters just what the natural man expects, that if he does more good than evil then he can obtain Heaven. As expressed by this RC:

I feel when my numbers up I will appoach a large table and St.Peter will be there with an enormous scale of justice by his side. We will see our life in a movie...the things that we did for the benefit of others will be for the plus side of the scale..the other stuff,,not so good will..well, be on the negative side..and so its a very interesting job Pete has. I wonder if he pushes a button for the elevator down for the losers...and what .sideways for those heading for purgatory..the half way house....lets wait and see.... ” http://forums.catholic.com/showpost.php?p=4098202&postcount=2

Yeah, like that. ;o)

My responses are generated by analyzing patterns and information from the training data, which includes a wide range of sources.

"Wide" encompasses an undefined set of 'information'.

I'd be less worried if it said (or lied?) about an INFINITE set of data.

Remember - you cannot pronounce EGG without "AIg".

'When I tell you what imagery found in Scripture REALLY means,'

the magnificant Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather superior tone,

' it means just whomever I choose it to mean, neither more nor less;

but sometimes two or more different things at once.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can define imagery to mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, C.SS.R, S.S.L., O.F.M, S.T.D 'which is to be master - that's all.'

Hi! If I had asked some well-grounded Christian this question and this was their answer, I would not complain about the response. grace - “unmerited favor” (accurate); salvation - “not earned through human efforts or works” (accurate). “extended to all who place their faith in Him” (accurate) payment - “through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross” (accurate) peace - “right relationship with God” (accurate) Naturally, there are some missing points but overall I’m thinking this is pretty accurate. I look forward you your response.

Did I ever answer this? I came across this tab on an older copy of portable Firefox. Anyway, here goes:

Grace

- favor, mercy, grace, benevolence to souls who are actually owed nothing from God except punishment.

Though theologians distinguish btwn strict/condign merit, as in salvation to those who did nothing of moral merit aside from calling upon the Lord Jesus in repentance, who saves sinners on His expense and credit, and that of congruent (or pactum) merit, in which God, in grace, rewards obedience according his promise, yet there is essentially only one kind of grace, which is not owed from God, even though He promises to give grace if man will respond/obey God, even in conversion.

For in conversion, and in any true obedience, man is doing what he otherwise could not and would not do, apart from God's grace, God draws, (Jn. 6:44; 12:32) opens hearts, (Acts 16:14) convicts, (John 16:8-11) grants repentance, (Acts 11:18) gives salvation, (Rm. 6:23; Eph. 2:8,9) and enables and motivates obedience. (Philippians 2:13,14) Thanks and glory be to God in Christ. The only thing man can and must take responsibility for is his sins, and with punishment being the only thing actually earned by God.

Salvation

- spiritually born of the Spirit (Jn. 3:2-7) by effectual penitent, heart-purifying, regenerating faith in the Divine Son of God (http://peacebyjesus.net/deityofchrist.html) and Lord of all, (Acts 10:43-47; 15:7-9) sent be the Father to be the Savior of the world, (1 Jn. 4:14) who saves sinners by His sinless shed blood.

And which faith is imputed for righteousness, (Romans 4:5) and is shown in baptism and following the Lord, (Acts 2:38-47; Jn. 10:27, 28) whom they shall go to be with or His return (Phil 1:23; 2Cor. 5:8 [“we”]; Heb, 12:22,23; 1Cor. 15:51ff'; 1Thess. 4:17) In contrast to those who were never born of the Spirit or who terminally fall away. (Gal. 5:1-4; Heb. 3:12; 10:25-39) Glory and thanks be to God.

Payment

- atoning sacrifice by the sinless Son of God, "Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed." (1 Peter 2:24 [KJV]) "Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God." (Romans 3:25 [KJV]) By which sinners are forgiven of all trespasses Colossians 2:13 and whereby the whole church is bought by His sinless shed blood. (Acts 20:28)

And as in covenant by faith, they have cleansing of sins subsequent to conversion, upon penitent confession, (1 Jn. 1:7-10) though believers suffer chastisement to motivate repentance, (1 Corinthians 11:32) yet sins of ignorance are ultimately covered by enduring, justifying faith, which would repent of such if convicted of such, (2 Corinthians 7:10) versus the impenitent. (Heb. 10:25-34)

Peace

- a condition of the soul insofar as such is of faith and effectually walking in faith, (Romans 5:1; 1 Timothy 1:19) versus in sin. (Ps. 51)