[jonrick46]

I say the answer is hydrogen fuel cells that create the electricity to run the car. Hydrogen gas is produced by renewable electric generation. For instance, a solar farm will create electricity that, through electrolysis, produces hydrogen. This is using hydrogen like you would a battery. Whenever there is enough light (or wind in a wind farm) it creates hydrogen and stores it. It would work great for tidal electric generation-to-hydrogen production and storage. That hydrogen gets pumped into vehicle storage tanks which run it into fuel cells that create the electricity to run the electric drive motors that run the vehicle. The electricity is also stored in an on-board battery that runs the electronics, windshield wipers and a cabin heating/air conditioning system. Simple. Yes?

[from occupied ga]

I find your hydrogen story to be somewhat lacking in reality due to a couple of points.

1. Hydrogen releases a lot of energy when burned. This is the good side, but because of the second law of thermodynamics hydrogen requires even more energy to hydrolyze from water. And the two so-called renewables wind and solar just don’t produce nearly enough energy to supply the transportation sector.
2. Hydrogen has to be stored in compressed or liquid form. Liquid H is stored by NASA, but is dangerous and because it boils at a much lower temperature than even liquid N you A need a lot of energy to cook it and B it boils away fairly quickly. Which brings us to C hydrogen has to be compressed to extremely high pressures to get a reasonable amount of it in a tank which is smaller than the Hindenberg. This requires a great deal of energy and depending on the pressure it can be as much or more than energy needed to hydrolyze it in the first place. And let’s not forget D hydrogen is very good at escaping pressurized systems. Leading to the conclusion that
3. Hydrogen is only marginally better than batteries in that it does not require tons of raw materials to make the storage systems and theoretically filling a hydrogen tank should be faster than charging a battery, but when you consider how totally dumb most people are, trusting them to handle a flammable gas connection at a couple of thousand bars is probably not a good idea

if you look at what gasoline is it is a mixture of H and C anyway so if it weren’t for the massive lie of the climate doom crazies about CO2 being a pollutant it’s better to just burn hydrocarbons.

[Nervous Tick]

>> Simple. Yes?

If you say so.

But YOU pay for it! Start to finish, including the infrastructure it needs. I don’t want to pay for your feelgood toys. NO GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES FOR THIS CRAP!

[webheart]

Hydrogen is perishable. Hydrogen atoms are teeny tiny. They escape between molecules of glass and steel containers. Not great for long term storage.

[A strike]

Simple as the Hindenberg

[central_va]

For instance, a NUCLEAR POWER PLANT will create electricity that, through electrolysis, produces hydrogen.

Fixed it.