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Porsche, Audi recall plug-in EV chargers over outlet fire risk
autoblog ^ | 12/26/2023 | BYRON HURD

Posted on 12/26/2023 1:23:09 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27

Porsche and Audi issued recalls for more than 130,000 battery-electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles to address two unrelated fire risks. The larger of the two campaigns is actually directed not at the cars themselves, but at the charging cables that were sold with them. This recall covers all vehicles sold with the company's 40-amp, 220/240V "industrial" charging cable designed to fit a NEMA 14-50 outlet. Parent company Volkswagen says Porsche and Audi were made aware of instances where the cable could overheat due to a poor-quality, outdated or defective home electrical setup, potentially leading to a house fire.

VW said the issue was discovered because over time, an overheating wall socket can damage the charging cable itself, leading to increased electrical resistance in the wiring. When those same charging cables are later used at public charging stations, the higher temperatures resulting from the increased resistance can trigger fault codes in the chargers, potentially leaving motorists stranded. The company said a similar fault at home without the redundancies of a public charging station could lead to equipment damage and even fire. Because the recalled units are merely charging cables and not hard-wired boxes, they have only basic safeguards against misuse. The recalled cables will be replaced by new units with more robust thermal overload protection.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Reference; Society
KEYWORDS: audi; automotive; electric; ev; fire; hybridev; porsche; recall
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Great just great....
1 posted on 12/26/2023 1:23:09 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The problem is there are no standards. Running 50 or 60 amps for hours will create heat. Your average 220 plug will melt.

This is completely retarded.


2 posted on 12/26/2023 1:26:50 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Recall: 2019 To 2023 Chevrolet Silverado HD Trucks are a Fire Hazard

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2019-2023-chevrolet-silverado-hd-medium-duty-trucks-recall-fire-hazard/


3 posted on 12/26/2023 1:28:13 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: ChicagoConservative27
over time, an overheating wall socket can damage the charging cable

So it's not the cable, it's your home electric setup that causes the problem. Easy peasy - just re-wire your entire house before you bring home your EV and no worries.

The entire economy will benefit from this expansion, and let's hope that all of the illegals pouring across our southern border are skilled, trained electricians.

4 posted on 12/26/2023 1:29:43 PM PST by Bernard (We honor veterans who fought to keep this country from turning into what it now is. --Argus Hamilton)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

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5 posted on 12/26/2023 1:29:53 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Running 50 or 60 amps for hours will create heat

Heat=Energy.

Any heat that is not used to power the car is wasted.
6 posted on 12/26/2023 1:33:32 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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Any heat that is not used to power the car is wasted.

Current always heats conductors. I don't think many home owners have a clue what it takes to conduct 50 amps for an hour. Fuses and connectors cost in the thousands of dollars for long term reliability not to mention the labor to set it up.

Service to the average home will need to double for a big EV.

7 posted on 12/26/2023 1:40:15 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: ChicagoConservative27

They wanted to be like Tesla and burn your house down


8 posted on 12/26/2023 1:42:58 PM PST by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

UL testing standards generally far exceed rated capacity and operating conditions. It said the faults were attributed to faulty home wiring. I wonder how much of that was DIY without inspection? I saw some moron on youTube suggesting a way to install a 220 outlet for charging by wiring across two 120 VAC branch circuits. (This will only work if the branches are antiphase.) It was apparent that this idiot had no idea what he was talking about, and reflected the worse of shade tree mechanics attitudes, and workmanship.

I posted a reply on youTube about my concerns, including the necessity of being antiphase, but more generally about the dangers of this kind of slipshod electrical work. He replied with what I took to be an ungracious “It works, doesn’t it?”

Until the house burns down.


9 posted on 12/26/2023 1:43:31 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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10 posted on 12/26/2023 1:51:04 PM PST by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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To: Samurai_Jack

LMAO


11 posted on 12/26/2023 1:52:44 PM PST by Allegra (Less propaganda would be appreciated.)
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To: TexasGator

If these companies can’t avoid fire risk with 12 volt systems, I don’t want what they build for 240 volts.


12 posted on 12/26/2023 1:53:33 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Samurai_Jack

LOL !


13 posted on 12/26/2023 1:53:57 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Another thing on video I posted about before: The cherry on the top of the cake was he was recommending this installation for people using Toyota 120 VAC chargers to supply the charger with 240 VAC through a NEMA 120 socket. Utter insanity. When he burns his house down, he’ll sue Toyota.


14 posted on 12/26/2023 1:55:57 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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To: Samurai_Jack

Lego is amazing!


15 posted on 12/26/2023 1:56:45 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Oversize electric golf cart fanbois hardest hit.
Maybe they will post a pic of their goofy looking hot wheels thing.


16 posted on 12/26/2023 1:56:55 PM PST by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

The issue is nobody at home has any appliance that can draw 50 or 60 amps for extended periods. There’s no historical data to draw from except in factories and shops. They are just guessing. The time is the root problem here.

Running for jours lets heat build up, melts components and resistance just goes up from there but the current still flows.


17 posted on 12/26/2023 2:35:07 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Those plugs and outlets are made for dryers and ranges. They both use lots of juice but not for long at a time. The constant draw needed to charge a giant battery will create a lot of heat over a couple of hours. Bogus setup.


18 posted on 12/26/2023 2:42:03 PM PST by Dandy (Drain the swamp baby!!!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
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19 posted on 12/26/2023 3:35:36 PM PST by dznutz
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Hunter’s Porsche just snorts right up.

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20 posted on 12/26/2023 3:48:14 PM PST by AnthonySoprano (Impeachment Inquiry is necessary since Deep State is blocking )
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