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28 Republican AGs Say Ending Ammo Sales (to civilians) at Missouri Plant Could Harm National Security
NTD News ^ | January 30, 2024 | Michael Clements

Posted on 01/30/2024 11:06:09 AM PST by Navy Patriot

The Attorneys General of 28 states are demanding that President Joe Biden ignore a request to investigate the Lake City Army Ammunition plant’s policy of selling 5.56 mm rifle ammunition to civilians.

A Jan. 24 letter written by Attorneys General Andrew Bailey of Missouri, Brenna Bird of Iowa, and Todd Rokita of Indiana and signed by 25 other attorneys general, warns that ending sales would harm America’s military readiness and do nothing to prevent crime.

The letter derides a previous missive, dated Jan. 9 and written by New York Attorney General Letitia James and signed by 19 other Attorneys General calling for the investigation, as dangerous and uninformed.

(Excerpt) Read more at ntd.com ...


TOPICS: Education; History
KEYWORDS: ammo; banglist; fjb; lakecity; lawfare; letitiajames; missouri; rifleammujition; rifles
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This is a proper response to Traitor Democrats backdoor attempt to ban all ammo sales to civilian Americans.

Very complicated Lawfare and Weaponization of Investigative and Regulatory Bureaucracies against the Citizen.

1 posted on 01/30/2024 11:06:09 AM PST by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot

Selling excess ammo to the general public allows the plant to run full time and decreases cost to the military.


2 posted on 01/30/2024 11:10:31 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Just ask the Israelis


3 posted on 01/30/2024 11:17:13 AM PST by albie
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To: Navy Patriot
Lake City is run by a contractor, and the contract states that whenever there are not U.S. Government ammunition orders to fill, the contractor can use the equipment to make ammunition for commercial sale, and compensate the U.S. Gov't for wear and tear on the machinery.

Because of this secondary way to make money, the contractor charges less to run the Lake City facility.

Banning the contractor from this secondary source of revenue will only increase costs to the U.S. Government, but will not grossly affect ammunition available on the civilian market.

4 posted on 01/30/2024 11:24:29 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Navy Patriot

How come the Republican AGs are filing charges against the Biden Crime Family?


5 posted on 01/30/2024 11:30:36 AM PST by Fido969
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To: Yo-Yo
Banning the contractor from this secondary source of revenue will only increase costs to the U.S. Government, but will not grossly affect ammunition available on the civilian market.

Libs don't care what anything cost the government as long as we plebes are kept in our place and continuously further enslaved.

To these people the government can never run out of other peoples's money. The taxpayer can always produce more money and will be happy to supply it.

Or else!

6 posted on 01/30/2024 11:37:55 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Navy Patriot

I wouldn’t have a problem giving any 5.56 back to democrats. ... might be hot as hell but that’s on them.


7 posted on 01/30/2024 11:38:51 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: Navy Patriot; All

Slightly off topic but Lake City could change dies to .223 Remington which is almost identical specs as 5.56. Any weapon chambered in 5.56 will run .223. 👍


8 posted on 01/30/2024 11:43:32 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore)
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To: Yo-Yo
Banning the contractor from this secondary source of revenue will only increase costs to the U.S. Government, but will not grossly affect ammunition available on the civilian market.

Remember, this is Lawfare and Weaponization.

Should a court accept the premise that there is "Military Grade Ammunition" that can be denied to civilians, private ammunition manufacturers are just a Leftist Lawsuit away from a court order banning sale of military designated calibers, and a second lawsuit for interchangeable civilian calibers.

No 308 Winchester for you, peon, ... or 223 Winchester, serf.

9 posted on 01/30/2024 11:44:49 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: maddog55

10 posted on 01/30/2024 11:45:45 AM PST by Dick Bachert (SPEAKI)
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To: Cobra64

Nope, you’re not off topic, 223 Remington could be in danger, see my post #9.


11 posted on 01/30/2024 11:48:32 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot

From the article:

“A tyrant’s tactic is to chip away at liberties little by little,” he wrote. “Americans cannot exercise their constitutionally protected right to use their firearms without access to ammunition. That’s why we’re taking a strong stand.”

And:

“The primary cartridge is proprietary to the Army and may not be sold commercially. If the United States military using ammunition precluded that ammunition’s use by civilians, then other widely and commonly available ammunition, including 9mm and 12-gauge shotshells,” the letter reads. “Lake City only sells ammunition to commercial customers that is legal to manufacture. Lake City complies with all the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives’ (“ATF”) requirements.”

They also write that the claim that taxpayers are subsidizing the sales is the opposite of what’s happening.

“They get causality backward. The law-abiding target shooters and gun owners who buy Lake City ammunition are subsidizing national defense and military readiness,” the Jan. 24 letter reads.

The letter from Mr. Bailey and the other pro-Second Amendment attorneys general points out that Lake City began selling ammunition to civilians as a means of maintaining production levels and a trained workforce in the event of war.

The plant had been basically mothballed prior to 1990. With the early 1990s military actions in Iraq, Kuwait, and other areas, the Lake City plant found itself playing catch up, trying to get machinery running and employees trained to meet the surge in demand for ammunition.

The addition of civilian sales to its government contract means the plant continues production and maintains its equipment and trained workforce, ensuring it’s able to meet future surges.

“That section in the Lake City contract was—and remains—a sound policy choice. As we confront an increasingly dangerous world with unpredictable adversaries, now is not the time to undermine our military readiness,” the Jan. 24 letter reads.


12 posted on 01/30/2024 11:55:41 AM PST by jacknhoo (1)
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To: Navy Patriot

I am pleased, but not surprised, to find Patrick Morrissey’s (WV) signature on that letter.


13 posted on 01/30/2024 11:58:34 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Running full time means that when DOD needs ammo NOW, all Lake City has to do is change which trucks the crates go on.

Maybe not even that. Maybe just change the delivery instructions given to the drivers ...


14 posted on 01/30/2024 12:00:27 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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Yes, the article was well written and explanatory of the very complicated Lawfare purpose.

Thanks, Jack!

15 posted on 01/30/2024 12:06:12 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Cobra64

Cartridge dimensions are the same. It’s the chamber dimensions that vary.


16 posted on 01/30/2024 12:14:33 PM PST by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: gundog

That’s why .223 Wylde is such a good chambering. Sure it is a compromise, but accuracy is better with .223 Rem than with a 5.56 chambering.


17 posted on 01/30/2024 12:27:40 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Without customers the MIC can’t keep manufacturing open, Russia is going to be facing this problem as their weapon sales drop and their weapons/ammo manufacturing must then depend solely on the Russian taxpayer for all funding and purchases.

Purchases from outside of the American military keep the market more stable, and diverse, keeps the factories open and makes the manufacturing profitable.


18 posted on 01/30/2024 12:34:24 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Stop posting drunk.


19 posted on 01/30/2024 12:35:54 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot
1) Those Republicans are obviously right.

2) To a Democrat, that is not an argument against.

20 posted on 01/30/2024 12:42:30 PM PST by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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