Israelites Were In America Before Columbus

Ensign Message ^ | Pastor Alan Campbell

[Tennessee_Bob]

The stone in question

[blam]

Fyi. (comments?)

[Ff--150]

Very interesting subject :)

[Tennessee_Bob]

Haven't read the articles that go along with this - glanced over this one before I went and googled the picture. But the picture itself brings up an interesting question.

If this stone truly predates Columbus, how do you explain how fresh the paleo-Hebrew writing appears as opposed to the other grafitti on the stone behind it?

[LostTribe]

>The name Celts was the designation given to those peoples who emerged from the same geographical location where the so called 'Lost Tribes of Israel' had disappeared from at an earlier stage of world history. These people migrated across Europe to settle in the British Isles and the coasts of France and Spain....

He's right on the money, as far as this part goes. For more, click on my Profile.

[LostTribe]

One of my favorites...

America B.C. by Barry Fell of Harvard.

[RightWhale]

The writing on the stone looks faked. Probably a creation in the 1800s.

[LostTribe]

> ...The term Phoenician is a general one, which covers not only the seafaring peoples based in the ancient cities of Tyre and Sidon (on the coast of modern Lebanon) but also the sea-roving Israelite tribes of Dan, Asher and Zebulon, whose tribal territories in Canaan were adjacent to these city states on the East Mediterranean coastline. These peoples planted trading posts and mercantile colonies along the shores of north Africa and Spain, and they engaged in a flourishing tin trade in the southwest corner of the British Isles,

Also accurate, but parts of the tribe of Judah, lead by Judahs son Zara were also part of these "early leavers" by sea from Egypt ~1600 BC, which correlates timewise with your theory of the massive volcanic eruption at Thera.

I believe it was these seagoing Israelites who came to America BC and left such large traces, rather than the traditional Lost Tribes of Israel who did not escape from Assyria until a thousand years later, ~600 BC. Perhaps it was both?

[uglybiker]

Best be careful. There's a cabal of hyenas on FR who will accuse you of being a Morman for making claims like that.

[blam]

Carthaginians In The New World

[another cricket]

I have always believed that there was a lot more traveling going on then anyone dreams of now days. Our ancestors were no where near as stationary as we once thought.

a.cricket

[LostTribe]

>Best be careful. There's a cabal of hyenas on FR who will accuse you of being a Morman for making claims like that.

GGG. I've been called worse. But I am not...

Howz the weather around Cottonwood? I like it there.

[LostTribe]

>I have always believed that there was a lot more traveling going on then anyone dreams of now days. Our ancestors were no where near as stationary as we once thought.

I agree with that. Traders, missionaries, military, outlaws, adventurers and tourists have itchy feet and are not about to stay in one place for long. (I don't believe Jesus did either, between his 12th and ~30th birthdays.)

Just for fun, take a good big map of NW Europe and plot a line in the water around the shoreline about 100 miles out from shore. The Vikings could go that far on a bad day, and double it on a good one.

Then imagine you are sailing in a boat and are fearful of losing sight of shore, or at least for very long. How far is the horizon, maybe 30-50 miles, depending on what's on the shore? Then see how far you can sail without losing sight of shore. It is astounding!

Then imagine you have sailed these waters a lot and are no longer fearful of losing sight of shore for a day or so since you know you can always turn around and come back to known territory. Try hopping from island to island and sail from Bergen Norway to Greenland, via Iceland.

Play with the numbers however you will, you end up concluding that it really wasn't that big a deal for the Vikings to come to America. It certainly wasn't an unreasonable and ridiculous idea. And if you do the same for the Med area, navigating that territory and along the Spanish and French shore to England a thousand or two years earlier is peanuts. (Not drowning might be another story...)

[4CJ]

Interesting stuff! I had heard (and read) about the vikings, but this is news to me. I think that our ancient ancestors were not wimpy, and easily traversed the oceans of the world long before Columbus et al.

Good post.

[Moonmad27]

Vikings, Celts and the like okay. Ancient Israelites? I feel sorry for anyone who believes that.

[blam]

Gods, Graves, Glyphs

[sawsalimb]

Hmmm....Zechariah Sitchin has also made the claim that Semitic peoples were present in North and South America sometime way back when. (Yes,I'm aware that Sitchin has a tinfoil hat reputation,of sorts,but I've read some of his work,and it's pretty hard to argue it down)

[sawsalimb]

Farley Mowatt(sp?) has also written an interesting book:The Farfarers

He's postulating that prior to the vikings,Iceland,Greenland,the Maritime Provinces,and parts of the far northeastern United States were settled by a people of Celtic-and Christian-background. Mowatt makes it clear that a long voyage(i.e. Europe to North America)in an open boat without high tech gear of navigational aids isn't nearly as impossible as a lot of people like to think it is.(apologies for the off-topic post,btw)

[LostTribe]

>Celtic-and Christian-background

What was his dating? Do you recall if reconciles the Celts not being Christians, at least until the time of Christ of course? Some of the earliest Christians were in fact Celts, those in Galatia (Turkey) and other near areas to whom the Apostles were sent.