Prosecution's Bug Expert Struggles On Stand:08/01/2002 Westefield Trial Nears Finish Lap!

Court TV ^ | August 1, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

[juzcuz]

Next witness-- an anthropologist-

I wonder if any of any of these specialists have ever addressed decaying body fats and greasy drag marks.
You know I was thinking-- to leave a "greasy" drag mark-- say 3 feet wide by 80-90 feet long, one would have to take a lot of body fat. I wonder if a "greasy" mark is a common occurance with something dead.
I'm afraid the only personal knowledge I have to relate to is the squirrel I rolled over a few days ago. It left a pretty good stain on the road, after the birds carried away it's poor little body. A day or so later, it rained and the road stain was gone.

[fatima]

VA$$inineBystander is more like it.

Besides, what makes YOU such an expert on bodily functions after death?

I suppose we'll be seeing you on the stand giving YOUR expert testimony, hmmmmm?????

You're just RUDE. PERIOD!


673 posted on 8/1/02 2:31 PM Pacific by the Deejay

I liked her reply gave us a lot of info,thank you,bystander.

[Ditter]

Were there signs that the body had been disturbed by animals?

[Granof8]

Please add me to your ping list. Thanks

[cyncooper]

Were there signs that the body had been disturbed by animals?

Yes. Animals had taken bites out of her body.

Also, the "greasy" drag marks are narrow and thought to be from an animal dragging entrails.

[BARLF]

Dusek questioning Lt. Jim Collins.(PH).

Q; Did you look at the scene for any other observations around the body?
A: I looked at the area directly around the body. The leaves were dry. There was obviously no sign of any burning. The tree above the body seemed to be okay,with no sign of burning. There were some drag marks in the leaves, coming from the north going to the south to where the body was resting.
Q: What do you mean by"drag marks?"
A: Looked like somebody had been--had dragged something,whether it was -- it appeared to be the body to me,dragging it into the underbrush under thr tree.
Q: Why was that significant?
A: That showed me that the body had been placed there and then dragged into that location,which would indicate that the body decomposed in the position that it was.

[RnMomof7]

The idea was to point out that the skin was mummified..and could have prevented the MOIST environment the bugs desired.

Now that is the point Kim...If the body had been placed there at the time of death BEFORE it was all dried out....the rectum and the vagina would have been MORE than moist

[Mrs.Liberty]

LOL...Then you don't want to picutre this reply, from pyx:

I was just thinking about my own funeral," the man replied. "I'm a gynecologist."

Worse would be if he were a PROCTOLOGIST. That would be a BUMMER. 597 posted on 8/1/02 1:51 PM Pacific by pyx [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 536 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

[shezza]

*ahem*

[BARLF]

Feldman to Lt. Collins (PH)
Q: Sir, I think you told us also that there may some what you perceive to be drag marks in or near the area of the body.
A: Yes.
Q: Did you prepare a report or any documents reflecting that observation?
A: No.
Q: That comes to you from memory alone or did you communicate that to anyone?
A: From memory alone.
Q: Can you tell me,Sir,what was the approximate width of the drag marks?
A: I would say no more than a foot, but that would just be an estimate.

[shezza]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't North (of body's position) the direction of the golf course?

[BARLF]

I don't know shezza. I'm guessing the Hwy is north of the site where Danielle was found. I picture in my mind the GC being west of the site but I really have no idea. Maybe someone else can tell us?

[the Deejay]

I agree, the GC being west of the recovery site. (The photo I recall in my mind's eye.)

[Ditter]

Thank you both for your replys.

[fatima]

I have never posted anything about porn except for raping of little girls video's found on David's computer,a unknown poster sent me and many more this,
To: BunnySlippers; ~Kim4VRWC's~; redlipstick; VRWC_minion; Greg Weston; cyncooper; fatima; All

PORNOGRAPHY.

This post is for all the hypocritical people that think they are so Lilly White and respectable, and that DW is a PERVERT because he had computer disks with files that were sexually oriented.In the meantime, the parents of the VICTIM in this case, seem to be allowed to commit WIDE OPEN ADULTERY, DRUGS, and admittedly didn’t even pay attention to their daughter’s whereabouts until it was too late .

PORN found on their computers and in their garage is not allowed to be discussed during the TRIAL. They are not the criminals (or are they?)

The problem I have seen is that we have a nation that is DISGUSTED that DW had PORN. They make the leap from possession of PORN (without any proof he ever viewed any of the allegedly illegal PORN) to MURDER. They assume murder after sexual assault. There is no evidence, due to the condition of the body, that that crime was committed and DW is not being charged with it either.

But the MINDS of the public have already made that leap. WHY? PORN is BAD. He shouldn’t have it. He is a PERVERT if he does. If he had CHILD PORN he had sex with KIDS. POSSESSION=Intent to commit crime.

WELL FOLKS. Let me explain something. You can possess something and have no interest in it, other than idle curiousity. You don’t have to possess it to be affected by it. You can be a pervert and have NO PORN WHATSOEVER in your possession.

If we JUDGE DW on the basis of HAVING VIEWED PORN, then 99% of the NATION is GUILTY and needs to be investigated for every murder and rape committed.

The REASON. I have heard so many ‘innocent’ men and women make remarks about the PORN. Like they have never seen any, don’t watch it, aren’t exposed to it. If being exposed to PORN makes you commit sexual assault, then exposure to MURDER scenes on film MAKES YOU COMMIT MURDER.

Silence of the Lambs

Halloween I,II,III,IV,V

How about GANG RAPE of a MINOR and EXTREME VIOLENCE? CLOCKWORK ORANGE.

NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET (1,2,3,4,etc)

and THOUSANDS MORE.

PORN. “No, I don’t have any in MY HOUSE. I would NEVER WATCH IT”

B*LLSH*T !

I know you have a computer, else you couldn't read this. Have PORN on your computer? This has been discussed relentlessly on FR, but for the blind, YES YOU DO. Unless you have specifically purchased software designed to remove it, or are a 'geek' and know where/how to find/get rid of it (and even then it may be recoverable, even if you write over it again, and again, and again) then maybe you don't (for about the next 2 seconds. Spam hits you relentlessly while on the net, and can contain porn)

You have a TV SET, you watch PORN.

You Have CABLE TV, you watch more risqué forms of PORN.

You have a SATELLITE DISH, you get the MOST HARDCORE PORN that is available.

You don’t possess it to the point the police have EVIDENCE they can cart off, BUT YOU HAVE IT AVAILABLE. If just having access to it is all that counts, YOU ARE GUILTY. Think that because you don't watch it your kids don't. Then you really are a fool.

Don’t have TV, OK, do you read ?

Romantic Women’s Novels. PORN.

ELLE magazine, PORN.

MAXIM magazine, PORN

COSMOS magazine, PORN

VOGUE magazine, PORN

thinly veiled, widely accepted, but PORN.

BIG BROTHER (3) On you local broadcast TV station coming soon . VOYEURISTIC PORN.

VICTORIA SECRET UNDERWEAR MODELS SHOW., PORNPORNPORNPORN.

Hubby ever go to a BACHELOR PARTY for a relative or a friend, LIVE IN YOUR LAP/FACE PORN.

Hubby go to TOPLESS BARS with the guys after work occasionally? (No) Well, you mean he doesn’t tell you that is where he went. PORN IN YOUR LAP.

In some of the EASTERN states, they are showing FILMS to your CHILDREN explaining to the how to PLACE THEIR FISTS in another persons ANAL ORIFICE for SEXUAL PLEASURE. If that isn’t PORN, I don’t know what is. And this is being done by TEACHERS to your CHILDREN.

SO, before you go condemning DW for having some sexual material, that he may have viewed some of , and probably got completely JADED with, remember this.

YOU TOO HAVE PORN.


910 posted on 7/25/02 5:42 PM Pacific by UCANSEE2
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[clearvision]

When I was pulling up aerial photos of the site it looked like the golf course was to the west, mountain to the north and the road to the south with the quarry filled with water across the street.

[BARLF]

Thanks Deejay. I have it between the Quarry and the GC. south of the main road up an embankment.

[the Deejay]

Your mind's eye is a bit better than mine! LOL

[BARLF]

Your welcome Ditter.

[bvw]

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