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The Guild - 9-5-2002 Bush to Seek Congress' O.K. on Iraq
AP White House Correspondent ^ | Wed Sep. 4, 2002 | RON FOURNIER

Posted on 09/05/2002 5:57:47 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush ( news - web sites) promised Wednesday to seek Congress' approval for "whatever is necessary" to oust Saddam Hussein ( news - web sites) including using military force, as the White House considered giving Iraq a last-ditch ultimatum over weapons inspectors.

House Speaker Dennis Hastert said Congress would vote before the Nov. 5 elections on how to deal with the Iraqi president, ensuring that Iraq is a high-profile issue in the campaign for control of the House and Senate.

Democrats who control the Senate said the non-binding resolution is possible but not certain because of the lack of time and Bush's failure thus far to make his case for war. "It would not be my assumption that the military course is the only action available to him today," said Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D.

"This is a debate the American people must hear, must understand," Bush said after a Cabinet Room meeting with 18 Democratic and Republican congressional leaders. "And the world must understand, as well, that its credibility is at stake."

After weeks of conflict and criticism, Bush began a public relations campaign to convince Americans and wary allies of the need to overthrow Saddam and secure his weapons of mass destruction program — perhaps by opening a second, perilous front on the war against terrorism.

Essentially seeking a blank check, Bush told lawmakers, "At an appropriate time, and after consultations with the leadership, I will seek congressional support for U.S. action to do whatever is necessary to deal with the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's regime."

Baghdad denounced Bush's "evil plans." Iraqi foreign minister Naji Sabri, speaking at the Arab foreign ministers meeting in Egypt, said: "These are whims and lies and pretexts ... all prepared with no evidence at all to support them."

Also in Cairo, Arab League Secretary-General Amr Moussa said the threat of war against Iraq "constitutes a danger for the stability of the entire region." But Swedish Prime Minister Goeran Persson said Bush was making the situation "politically manageable."

In South Africa, Secretary of State Colin Powell ( news - web sites) said he received "a solid expression of support" from allies at a U.N. development summit.

White House press secretary Ari Fleischer ( news - web sites) said the congressional resolution could include "any number of things, including the option of military force." Congress may be asked to approve "all-encompassing" language, even before Bush decides what action to take.

Bush's lawyers have said he does not need congressional approval to wage war, but his political aides concluded a nonbinding resolution would probably pass in the heat of the campaign and the vote is needed to build support. Asked whether he was giving lawmakers a veto, Bush demurred: "I'll be able to work with Congress to deal with this threat."

Sensitive to the political pitfalls of bucking a wartime president, Democratic lawmakers cautiously accepted Bush's talk of consultations and a sense-of-the-Congress vote. But they said Bush has yet to justify war with Iraq.

Sen. Harry Reid ( news, bio, voting record), D-Nev., who attended the White House meeting, said he does not think there is time for a resolution before the election.

"I think everyone acknowledged this is a good start, but I don't think anyone walked out of there ready to invade," he said.

The president plans to make his case before the United Nations ( news - web sites) on Sept. 12, a day after the nation commemorates the one year anniversary of the terrorist attacks that killed more than 3,000 people.

He will meet Saturday at Camp David with Tony Blair ( news - web sites), the staunchest U.S. ally on Iraq. Bush said he would reach out to presidents Jacques Chirac of France, Jiang Zemin of China and Vladimir Putin ( news - web sites) of Russia — all three opposed to war with Iraq.

Bush will argue that Saddam has flouted U.N. resolutions aimed at curbing his weapons of mass destruction program since the Persian Gulf War ( news - web sites), and thus the world body is obligated to help the U.S. punish Saddam for not complying, administration officials said.

Bush intends to tell world leaders in his Sept. 12 address that the relevance of the U.N. itself is at stake, according to an official familiar with early drafts of the speech.

The president is strongly considering a U.N. Security Council resolution that would set a deadline for Iraq to open its weapons sites to unfettered inspection and to apply punitive action if he refuses, three administration officials told The Associated Press on condition they not be identified.

To get the resolution past a threatened veto by China or Russia, the resolution likely would not spell out the threat, but it would be obvious to Saddam, the officials said.

Some two dozen ideas are circulating within the administration, and among them is the notion of "coercive inspections" — forcing Iraq to open its suspect sites to inspectors by deploying thousands of American or multinational troops in or near Iraq who would launch an attack if inspectors were denied, officials said.

In any form, White House officials said Saddam is unlikely to comply with either a U.S. or U.N. ultimatum. Even if he does agree to wide-open inspections, the official U.S. policy still calls for a regime change.

Thus, senior Bush advisers acknowledge that Bush is setting the stage for a confrontation with Saddam while knowing the outcome eventually will lead to military force unless the Iraqi leader is deposed by other means.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld went to the Capitol on Wednesday for classified meetings. He said Tuesday that the Bush administration has secret information that Saddam is close to developing nuclear weapons.

rope-a-dope-rope-a-dope-rope-a-dope-rope-a-dope

Well, well, well. Little tommy and terry and dickie thought they had President Bush between a rock and a hard place. As soon as he leaves on his working vacation they start in with, the President needs approval from Congress! The President needs approval from the UN! The President needs to provide proof to the American people and let us vote (even though his already has the authority to go to war without congress's approval) on attacking Iraq!

Uh, wait, you want to do these hearings NOW? One month before elections?! GULP!

But, but, but we wanted to talk about how awful the economy is! About how seniors won't get prescription drugs! About what an evil tree killer GWB is! About how that tax cut is cause for our unemployment ills! And what about all that corporate greed?! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh!!

For such a dumb guy, President Bush sure knows how to handle reprobates.

LET'S ROLL MR. PRESIDENT!


Dashcle: Oh $#!+, he did it to us again!


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1 posted on 09/05/2002 5:57:47 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs; Billie; mountaineer; Timeout; BigWaveBetty; ClancyJ; daisyscarlett; LBGA; ...
Good Morning!

I love the smell of toasted dems in the morning!

2 posted on 09/05/2002 6:00:24 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
Yea, me too. Just watch the Senate sandbag on this one. I predict the Senate will not take the vote before the election.

Bush will spend the next 2 months making the case with the American public.
3 posted on 09/05/2002 6:33:59 AM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: BigWaveBetty; *The GUILD
GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY!!!
4 posted on 09/05/2002 6:49:46 AM PDT by Pippin
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To: Iowa Granny
Good Morning, IG!
5 posted on 09/05/2002 6:50:47 AM PDT by Pippin
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To: Iowa Granny
Well, I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I actually like a new show that came out on our PBS station. It's called Liberty's Kids, and is set in the Revolutionary War period. I sat and watched it with my son yesterday and I couldn't believe how much I liked it.

What I really liked is the focus on the main players --yesterday it was Patrick Henry. Here's the link in case any of you with little ones wants to check it out.http://pbskids.org/libertyskids/index.html
6 posted on 09/05/2002 6:51:38 AM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: Iowa Granny
House Speaker Dennis Hastert said Congress would vote before the Nov. 5 elections on how to deal with the Iraqi president, ensuring that Iraq is a high-profile issue in the campaign for control of the House and Senate.

If the senate won't that will give President Bush much ammunition to remind America obstructionist is Daschle's middle name. And God forbid something should happen while tommy twiddles his thumbs. JMHO, but I don't think President Bush will take that long to make his case.

7 posted on 09/05/2002 6:57:20 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: Aggie Mama; Pippin
Thanks Aggie Mama! Good Morning to you and Pippin!
8 posted on 09/05/2002 6:58:36 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
JMHO, but I don't think President Bush will take that long to make his case.

Oh, I don't think he'll waste any time, either. But I do think he'll be forced to drag it out longer than intended because the Senate will sandbag.

9 posted on 09/05/2002 7:23:24 AM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: BigWaveBetty; Iowa Granny; Hillary's Lovely Legs; mountaineer; Teacup
Good mornin', y'all.

I can't believe some FReepers on the NC threads are actually going to vote for Bowels because of their strong dislike of Liddy.

I am astounded at that. We CANNOT lose Jesse's seat to the 'rat column!!!

Going for more caffeine.

10 posted on 09/05/2002 7:33:11 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: BigWaveBetty; *The GUILD
Rope a dope, or rope a daschele bump.

Good job BWB - Let's Roll.

A great Thursday to everyone.
11 posted on 09/05/2002 7:34:21 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: Iowa Granny
But since he already has authority to attack Iraq can't he do it even if the senate hasn't voted? I'm guessing by then the House will have voted yes. Sure there will be yelling and screaming, to no avail. We go in, after 60? days the congress votes to appropriate money or not. I'm banking they, senate included vote to fund the war. Did I get any of that right? :-)
12 posted on 09/05/2002 7:37:34 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: Carolina
I guess the freepers who won't vote for Libby actually like Daschle. They want a Dem Senate. They must love higher taxes, the Hollywood left, the selling of our missile technology to China, and lewd behavior in the Oval Office.

There is no other possible explaination.
13 posted on 09/05/2002 7:38:52 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: BigWaveBetty; Iowa Granny; Aggie Mama; Pippin

Remember this timid timmie


14 posted on 09/05/2002 7:39:49 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: Carolina
going to vote for Bowels because of their strong dislike of Liddy.

Just in case they're not blowing hot air, I'll add NC Bowels voters to my prayers.

Make that coffee extra strong.

15 posted on 09/05/2002 7:41:41 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: Carolina
FR has plenty of people who cut off their noses to spite their face, i.e., vote for fringe third-party types or vote for Dems to "make a statement" about all that's wrong with the GOP. They think they're standing on high moral principle. When the result is more Dems, higher taxes and even more infringements on freedom, they still think they've proven their points. Morons.
16 posted on 09/05/2002 7:42:42 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
They must love higher taxes, the Hollywood left, the selling of our missile technology to China, and lewd behavior in the Oval Office.

Well, the rationale is: It's better to know that you're going to be stabbed in the back.

BIG SIGH!

17 posted on 09/05/2002 7:43:32 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: lodwick
Good Morning lodwick!

Pesident Bush and The Guild would like to welcome you home!

18 posted on 09/05/2002 7:46:56 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: Aggie Mama
Liberty's Kids sounds intersting, Aggie Mama. Even though our kids are older, I might check it out anyway! This week, we're going to be watching a tape of the Lewis and Clark series that was done on PBS last year.
Ken Burn's "Civil War" series will be replayed beginning on Sept. 22nd. It is NOT to be missed, if only to listen to Shelby Foote and his anecdotes about the Civil War.
19 posted on 09/05/2002 7:48:15 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: BigWaveBetty
President - duh.
20 posted on 09/05/2002 7:48:37 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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