Research help needed

Tell that loser that, yes, we did steal the election "fair and square" and the commie Dems are whining because they lost a dirty fight.
Then tell "it" that now we are running the country and will poison the environment and tax him into abject poverty so as to make the rich even richer.
Then we are going to send his kids to Borneo to feed the natives.

The best thing you can do is to get Bill Sammons' book "At Any Cost," then, in the summer of 2001, there were several news organizations that published their follow-up examination of the ballots.

Also see this story: "Florida Voter Errors Cost Gore the Election," USA Today, May 11-13, 2001" which is a summary of all the "recounts." Using ANY of the legal means (including "partial votes") short of the so-called "dimpled chad," in which there was nothing punched at all, Bush won every recount statewide.

The dimpled chad is fraud, pure and simple because it purports to "know how" someone "might" have voted and (in theory) says it is impossible for someone to start to make a mark, then change his or her mind. It would ascribe EVERY dimpled ballot an "intent." But if you look at "overvotes," (voting for more than one candidate) or any other "hanging chads" where a ballot was punched, but not all the way through, BUSH WON, no matter what.

It will do no good to agrue with the facts to a leftist.
I prefer to torment them and feed their paranoia.

Well, you are probably right.

I have a pure socialist colleague (he prides himself on not being a "liberal") and yet he claimed to be a Christian.

I showed him from SCRIPTURE how socialism was anti-God; how the only scriptural references at all (there are 2) were both individual examples and not meant as "Thus saith the Lord" or as a guide for modern economic; I showed him that socialism was inherently SELFISH, while capitalism, with its emphasis on serving others (regardless or your motivation for doing so) was essentially selfless . . . . Even though he finally admitted he could not challenge me with the scriptures, then, after I destroyed his notions about which system "provides for human needs," and he lost that one too, he gave up.

I said, if you have no answer for either of those two main arguments, and you still are teaching socialism to your students, you are teaching them lies.

Needless to say, that ended whatever friendship we ever had!

That guy was a lying thief anyway. All socialists are thieves. America is full of them.
Democrat politicians pander to these parasites and write laws to bleed the productive and buy the votes of these losers.

Bookmarked.

There is/was/will be NO evidence of Republican election fraud at any place in FL, nor nationally.

Well-established FL democrat election fruad includes:

1) Several hundred (known) and several thousands suspected double-votes from democrats dual-registered in two different FL counties (primarily FL college students) and dual-registered democrat voters out-of-state (NY/NJ/MA) who reside most of the winter in Miami.

2) Intimidated Hataian (black) voters who were threatened (by neighborhood (black) democrat thugs) if they DID NOT vote democrat, or if they went to polls at all. The Hatian community is dominently conservative, like the Miami Cuban comunity.

3) Approximately 45,000 CRIMINALS were purged from the voter registration polls before the election. Most observers know these criminal felons ould have voted democratic, and this LEGALLY REQUIRED REMOVAL is the source of the rumors that "40,000 blacks were prevented from voting" .... Note that THESE PEOPLE COULD NOT HAVE VOTED LEGALLY, BUT WERE KEPT REGISTERED BY DEMOCRAT POLITICAL MACHINES - often for years after their conviction.

4) Illegal moves AFTER the recount began (when Gore trailed by less than 1000 votes!) to prevent military ballots from being opened and read due to technicalities. Notice that Gore "claimed" to deny this tactic after documents proved his political machine (attorney General of FL) started it, but also note that NO MILITARY ballot were ever counted. Gore may claim anything, but his machine prevented these from being read. (Almost ALL of these 1200 challenged ballots are expected to be republican votes.)

Several thousand OTHER Jacksonville FL military absentee ballots were never forwarded to the ships deployed in the Gulf and off Bosnia, including support ships moved to support the Cole after she was bombed.

5) The highly conservative/republican west FL county voters were told FL had ALREADY gone democrat BEFORE their polls closed in the Central time zone.

Estimates vary (from 10,000 to 8,000) but MANY THOUSANDS of republican voters did NOT go to the polls (or left the long polling lines!) AFTER this news was received that their votes would be worthless. K. Harris EXPLICITLY warned the national news media NOT to do this several weeks before teh election, but the national democrat party (er, liberal news media) did it anyway to bolster Gore's chances.

6) Most obviously, after a punch card machine and spare punch cards were found IN a democrat party leader's car AFTER the polls were closed, the democratic Palm Beach/Miami/South Fl counties waited UNTIL AFTER the rest of the state had voted, and then "suddenly" adjusted their votes UP by 45,000 thuosand ALL Gore votes. Circumstantial evidence but means, method, and and opportunity have convicted many million guilty felons before.

7) While counting/recounting/re-re-recounting ballots by hand - when Gore traield by only a few hundred votes, several dozens of "new" chads kept appearing on the floor under democrat party vote officials. The number of Gore punched ballots also kept going up, but NO "new" bush ballots were found.

8) While recounting ballots the first wo times, SEVERAL HUNDRED NEW GORE VOTES were found between the original automatic count and the state-mandated automatic count two days later - BUT ONLY in the three democratic counties in South FL THAT GORE DEMANDED BE re-counted.

EVERY OTHER county (of over 150) in FL had recount resutls that were within 2-3 of their ORIGINAL COUNT, but the three democrat counties in south FL that Gore demanded be recounted, GAINED (suddenly and without explanation!) several hundred NEW Gore votes.

No explanation has ever been offered about WHY this many "new" votes for gore were not counted (were not present) the first time.

9) Stuffed ballot boxes were used in many democrat victories in the past in campaigns run by people supported BY Chicago democrat Mayor Daley (most notably Kennedy in 1960, Johnson in the mid-fifties in TX and as VP in 1960) and in many races since. Again, it is circumstantional evidence; but method, motive, and opportunity are established - since his son ran Gore's FL campaign.

10) The FL Supreme Court voted on strict democrat party lines to uphold the illegal and selective re-re-re-counting of ballots to find more Gore votes. The US Supreme Court stopped this illegal activity by 7-2 vote NOT on party lines, but by a substantially greater margin than the Supreme Court voted in favor of Roe-vs-Wade.

Never let the Dems forget they threw out the military absentee ballots.

You ROCK!

Thanks so much! I think I will copy and paste your list to this idiot and let it go at that. If his hatred won't allow him to believe the facts before him, so be it.

Anybody wanna kibbitz on my battle of wits? You can do it here:
http://www.bsudailynews.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2003/03/28/3e83de593a4d3

Thanks again to all who responded to my call!

Almost missed your ping, Robert. I'm glad I didn't.

Ignatz, good for you! You've probably noticed that most US newpapers and Universities didn't bother to research anything that didn't support their fantasy. They lied. Big time.

My usual letter. Yes, the data's there for any reporter/researcher who cares about the truth:

I listened as the press lied through the recounts, paused for an obscenely short time after 9-11, and picked up the refrain, the campaign of lies..."Gore won" "Bush is selected" "Gore won the popular vote." Today, a British leader, when asked by Neil Cavuto on FoxNews why she didn't like our President said that he was a "gun-toting cowboy" who didn't win the election. How dangerous is this lie, this carefully crafted campaign to undermine the Bush administration...spread across the globe, into our elementary schools and onto our streets where mothers hiss their disdain for our "illegitimate" President as their children listen? How powerful is the mainstream press?

"The press has become the greatest power within the western countries, more powerful than the legislative, the executive, and the judiciary. One would then ask: By what law has it been elected and to whom is it responsible?" - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Remember when the press "discovered" the old mildly-intoxicated-while-driving Bush "scandal" a week before the election? Coincidentally, earlier that same day, Janet Reno told the press that she would be opening an investigation into Al Gore's pulling the plug on a multi-year drug investigation (after the Houston detectives cried foul at the cover-up) because the #1 suspect made a BIG $$$ donation to Al's campaign. A mob of "mainstream" journalists chased the ancient DUI story. The W. Times reported the Gore story.

When I asked a local SW Florida NBC TV news manager why the Gore story was being covered-up, following three days of "DUI" coverage into the weekend before election day, this news boss said of the Washington Times, "That right-wing rag?! It's owned by the Moonies." I asked him whether he believed that Janet Reno would grant the Washington Times an exclusive? He conceded the point, but no mention of the Gore story appeared in Mr. Alterman's supposed "right wing" mainstream media. Can you say "popular vote"? Who owned VNS, again?

Florida Republicans fought the attempted election theft by the Florida Dem. election machine and their army of lawyers and liars who descended on our fair state in packs. Surprise, we didn't let them steal the election in 2000. We informed ourselves and our neighbors - since AP and Gannett in Fla. chose to print DNC "opinion" and PR as "news". ...and they're still lying about the 2000 election. November 2002 and the Florida voters, both Republicans and Democrats voted fair and square (again) and some influential members of the press and the DNC are ignoring us and STILL lying about election 2000.

There are hundreds of left-wing hate groups doing more than skewing polls - their clever hate campaigns are being used by Saddam and Al Qaeda to undermine not only our President, but to put Democrats AND Republicans and their loved ones at greater risk from real bad guys with WMDs.

Some of what the left-wing media left out of the 2000 election re-re-recount coverage:

While the Democrats are still blaming those Votomatic punch card machines (like the one in Palm Beach) for Gore's loss, it was Bush who was hurt in the Votomatic counties...including my Republican Lee County. Impeachment manager Bill McCollum received more votes for Senate than did George W. Bush for President in Lee, Palm Beach, Charlotte counties. Think about that. Voters voted for Bill McCollum and Al Gore?

Oh, and those "hick" counties, the "red" counties in Florida with fewer than 10,000 voters? All but one of those 22 Florida counties voted for BUSH and they are ALL Democrat-majority counties with Dem. election personnel...and ALL recounted (as did EVERY county in Florida (just not 2 or 3 times 'til ballots could be manipulated for Gore))- and the HONEST Democrats in the small Florida counties showed mostly single digit changes in the recounts, mostly insignificant. As a friend said, "my Democratic neighbors are southern Democrats with family values and they don't trust Gore."

Did you hear of a Republican* voting twice? Republican* felons voting in large blocks? Republican* illegal immigrants? Republicans* in nursing homes and hospitals "helping" incompetent patients vote? Republicans* adding non-resident names to the voting rosters at the polling locations? Republicans* poking holes in ballots/ eating chads? Writing books about recounts and how to win elections by manipulating ballots? Did Republicans* have a GOTV center set up in a Palm Beach law office, with "ballot protest" forms and a telecom company (a little bankrupt firm called Telequest that sold to a company from India days later for millions $$), set up in advance, as well as a team of lawyers ready to put the "recount" campaign in place? Did a Republican* lawyer lie about an Illinois "dimple decision" to the national press and in court? Did Republicans* go into the inner cities and tell the voters that George W. Bush would send them back to slavery? Did a Republican* Florida Supreme Court ignore existing state law to allow carefully selected Republican* counties recounts, and then change the laws as it was necessary to help Republicans*? Did a Republican* send a memo to every one of 67 counties - not based on Florida law - telling poll workers how to disqualify military ballots? Did Republicans* prevent over 500 Florida students from Liberty University (Jerry Falwell's school) from receiving their absentee ballots? Did Republicans* misdirect military mail? Make it exceedingly difficult for military overseas to vote? Did the Republican* press cover up the massive Dem. dirty tricks? Did a Republican* Florida elect our Republican House, Republican Governor and GHW Bush over Bill Clinton in 1992? Is the Republican* press still lying?

No.

* Democrat(s)

The false charge of "racism" was the most destructive lie of all...but of course the DNC knew exactly how that lie would play in the inner cities where they frightened young children with hateful lies. Teachers and parents had children tell them that they were terrified that President Bush would make them slaves. "Racist" Republican Bush was a topic of discussion at the UN Conference on Racism, thanks to Jesse Jackson's destructive lies and an extensive, international, post-election, DNC-press anti-Bush PR campaign.

Over 180 nations railed against the "racist" American leadership during a week of Bush-American and Israel bashing, taking home the message to their respective countries. What enemy of America wouldn't be strengthened by this display of international enmity against US? The UN "racism" conference ended two days before 9-11-01.

Sorry, guess I'm not "over it."

If you eliminated 1/2 of the Democrat vote fraud that took place in 1/2 of the states and added in 1/2 of the omitted military votes from 1/2 of the overseas bases and ships, then Bush would have won the 2000 popular vote — big time.