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Meet their backyard backstabbers (Possible 2012 Republican presidential candidates)
The Politico ^ | February 18, 2011 | Molly Ball and James Hohmann

Posted on 02/20/2011 1:38:42 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

After dazzling an audience of Washington insiders with a speech Wednesday, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is the toast of the Republican Party, a political luminary whose star shines so brightly that no one actually believes him when he says unequivocally he’s not running for president.

Yet to Steve Lonegan, Christie is just another hack — and a wildly overrated one at that.

“He has been a big disappointment to conservatives in New Jersey,” said Lonegan, the former Bogota mayor who lost to Christie in the 2009 GOP primary but campaigned for him in the general election.

Lonegan, now director of Americans for Prosperity New Jersey, can offer a detailed critique involving hiked property taxes, unpaid pension obligations and new taxes. Don’t even get him started about Christie’s failure to join other states in challenging Obamacare and his refusal to pull the state out of a regional cap-and-trade program.

His sour comments about the governor make Lonegan an outlier, but he’s not unique. He’s one of a political phenomenon that surfaces every four years: the backyard backstabber, an Ahab-like opponent — often there are more than one — almost obsessively focused on tearing down the home-state hero. Like scorned ex-wives, they are hellbent on telling the world that the man they know intimately is not, deep down, what his public persona suggests.

In Minnesota, where former GOP Gov. Tim Pawlenty is preparing a run for president, former Gov. Arne Carlson fits the bill. Carlson, himself a former two-term Republican governor who endorsed Pawlenty in 2002, has since emerged as one of his loudest critics.

Carlson accuses Pawlenty of governing based on political expediency rather than principle — and he vows to keep hammering away at him.

“I will go to Iowa and New Hampshire and have press conferences....

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Issues; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2012; chrischristie; haleybarbour; huckabee; palin; pawlenty
Detailed, three-page article.
1 posted on 02/20/2011 1:38:44 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is this Politico set up to give some Democrat talking points to the socialist media?


2 posted on 02/20/2011 1:45:47 AM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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To: screaminsunshine

Even a broken clock tells the correct time twice a day.

We would be stupid not to take note and check facts.


3 posted on 02/20/2011 1:58:17 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So let me get this straight. a huge number of people across the country want to elect Mr. Christy President because of his highly televised fights with the teachers unions in New Jersey. Understandable.

This same potential candidate refuses to join other states in legal actions against the implementation of ObamaCare.

This same potential candidate also shows no inclination towards the defeat of Cap and Trade legislation.

So, hypothetically, should Mr. Christy prevail in the primaries, we could end up with a candidate for our side who supports ObamaCare, Cap and Trade, and who knows how many other commie bills.

I could, hypothetically, end up with the same kind of choice I had in the ‘08 election, which was no choice at all.

As muchas I enjoy him put the teacher’s unions through the wood chipper, my most casual observations, so far, lead me to conclude that he might just be a one trick pony. I don’t know what his core principles are, but my instincts tell me that they run counter to my own.

Now Sara, her I rust.


4 posted on 02/20/2011 2:12:42 AM PST by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: Rearden

He’s also a gun-grabber and pro-Mosque. Nein, danke!


5 posted on 02/20/2011 2:19:24 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (We need more Democrats in the Senate --Like Custer needed more arrows.)
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To: None
Anyone know the storyline to the movie Wall-e?
6 posted on 02/20/2011 2:21:05 AM PST by RBIEL2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I back you up on that. I get bad vibes from him, but what the heck, the rest of the little fishes in the pond want to swim over in his direction and they mock and laugh at me me for being a solitary fish that won’t swim with the rest!


7 posted on 02/20/2011 2:22:19 AM PST by Eye of Unk ("These people are either at your neck or at your knees" A quote by Winston Churchill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What I believe is missing in all of these stories about Chris Christie is where the hell if Mitt Romney and why isn’t he front and center now?

Isn’t Mitt “the next in line candidate” that has been anointed by the party? Or has the GOP establishment soured on Mitt?

Why isn’t this story getting more media attention?


8 posted on 02/20/2011 2:57:55 AM PST by techno
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There are no KNIGHTS IN SHINING ARMOUR that appear over the horizon, wave their magic wand, and solve public policy (and core belief) problems.

There are however, some who serve in the public arena, over a period of time, at different levels of government who have clearly demonstrated an ability to solve public problems, absorb the brutal assaults on their public iniatives and personal character, and still remain standing.

They should not be dismissed because they irritate a segment of the pimps of the elitist election industry!
9 posted on 02/20/2011 3:29:36 AM PST by leprechaun9
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To: techno

Mitt is very risk adverse. He is a calculating, timid political persona that will wait out any controversy until a consensus is formed then he will adapts it as he own. The bulk of this paralysis is that he doesn’t have core values so he feels no internal compunction to make a statement, one way or another. Another thing is that Romney’s don’t fight, for anything save family, money and the LDS.


10 posted on 02/20/2011 3:46:25 AM PST by Leisler (Our debts are someone's profit. Follow the money, the vig.....)
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To: Rearden

When asked if he supports Obamacare, Christie has been quite open. He opposes it, feels it will bankrupt the states, but will not spend money on lawyers in the legal battle as long as there are 26 other states with lawyers already in the game. As far as cap and trade goes, I think he said more than a year ago it was DOA.


11 posted on 02/20/2011 4:10:54 AM PST by Melchior
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To: Melchior

OK, so he is then someone who has no problem letting the taxpayers from my state and others doing all the heavy lifting and pay the expense incurred fighting ObamaCare as long as his constituents benefit from our labor. What a guy.

I haven’t really seen anything attributed to Christy on his objection to Cap and Trade legislation. I do recall seeing something that he was quoted as saying that Climate Change was a real concern for the citizens of New Jersey.

I really do applaud his efforts to defrock the teachers unions, I’m just not ready to drink his Kool-Aid quite yet. He is fighting the unions, but they will still be there when he moves on.

Until I see proof to the contrary, he is still a one trick pony in my book.


12 posted on 02/20/2011 4:34:13 AM PST by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: Rearden

It would be VERY easy to sign on to the Lawsuit without spending much (if ANY) N.J. dollars.
Plus, Dear Christie is way to friendly to Sharia-Loving Muzzies, and ABSOLUTELY HATES the idea of our 2nd-ammendment armed citizenry. Those should be red flags to any Liberty-Loving people.


13 posted on 02/20/2011 5:01:54 AM PST by Flintlock
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To: Rearden
OK, so he is then someone who has no problem letting the taxpayers from my state and others doing all the heavy lifting and pay the expense incurred fighting ObamaCare as long as his constituents benefit from our labor. What a guy.

He sounds like a damn fine money manager. My ex is an accountant, a very good one. Many years ago we were working together (different departments, same company) and we were talking about the different department heads. She said that a lot of them were pretty much clueless about how to run their divisions but some of them were really good. Her basis for judgment? How good they were at managing their finances. The really good ones shifted costs around so the other departments would assume most of their costs. The bad ones didn't even realize they were being screwed over.

It sounds like Gov. Christie is one of the good ones and he's doing exactly what you suggested, getting others to pick up the tab while his state reaps the rewards. He still wouldn't get my vote in a POTUS primary but he's being smart with the people's money.

14 posted on 02/20/2011 5:12:15 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
The problem is that court case isn't about managing money. Christie as a former DA knows this. So he is out and out lying on this one. The more states that sign on the greater the weight the SCOTUS will place on that fact.

27 states is better than 26. Christie is playing a game of politics he knows it and those that understand the issue knows it. The GOP establishment does not want Obamacare struck down. they would rather have Obama’s name tied to the cuts in medicare that are coming then their own.

15 posted on 02/20/2011 6:54:52 AM PST by unseen1
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To: Melchior
When asked if he supports Obamacare, Christie has been quite open. He opposes it, feels it will bankrupt the states, but will not spend money on lawyers in the legal battle as long as there are 26 other states with lawyers already in the game.

Wow, that's really lame.

Allowing the other states to pay for the legal costs, will play real with with voters of the 26 states that spent the money if Christie were to run.

It's also worth noting that Christie also refused to join the fight when there was a quantity of 1 thru 25 states, that were challenging Obamacare.

And even now, with 27 or so number of sates, the more states that challenge Obamacare, the better.

16 posted on 02/20/2011 9:49:28 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

Why?


17 posted on 02/20/2011 1:05:09 PM PST by Melchior
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To: FreeReign

You are expressing an opinion, not a fact. The court may not mean much anymore, but the judgement should be based on the law and legal precedent and not whether there are 26 states, or all 50 states. An interesting question is this: who had the better legal argument, Virginia by itself? or the states led by Florida?


18 posted on 02/20/2011 1:14:47 PM PST by Melchior
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