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Poll: Obama would beat Perry (& Palin) in Texas but lose to Ron Paul & other Republicans (PPP)
The Houston Chronicle ^ | June 30, 2011 | Lauren French

Posted on 06/30/2011 6:17:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Will the Lone Star state turn blue in 2012?

It isn’t likely — unless Gov. Rick Perry jumps in the ring and clinches the Republican nomination, a new poll from the Public Policy Polling group found.

In the poll’s match-ups, President Barack Obama loses Texas to every notable Republican except Perry and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. If the ballot came down to Perry and Obama, 47 percent of poll respondents said they would vote for Obama. Forty-five percent said they would cast a ballot for Perry.

The most elected Republican in the poll? Mitt Romney.

The poll found that Obama would garner 42 percent of the Texas vote to 50 percent for the former Massachusetts governor. The president trailed Texas Rep. Ron Paul, R-Lake Jackson, by 5 percentage points, 40 percent to 45 percent.

Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann leads in Texas, 47 percent to Obama’s 44 percent. Obama also loses to former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty by 1 percentage point.

Obama would beat out Palin for the state with 46 percent of respondents casting a ballot for his second term and 44 percent voting for Palin.....

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.chron.com ...


TOPICS: Texas; Campaign News; Parties; Polls
KEYWORDS: bs; fakepoll; obama; palin; perry; ppp4obama; ppp4romney; pppfakepoll; pppflack4obama; pppflack4romney; ppptheprrep; rhymeswithmitt; rinoromney; romneydirtytrick; ronpaul; smellslikemitt; stenchofromney
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YOU LIE!! All the so-called "losers" are within the margin of error. Another misleading headline to hurt Gov. Palin and help Gov. Romney. How many thousands does this make now?!
1 posted on 06/30/2011 6:17:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The most elected Republican in the poll? Mitt Romney.

I'm not willing to pretend that Romney is a republican.

2 posted on 06/30/2011 6:19:04 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama will not win Texas over Perry. If any poll says that, the poll is bunk


3 posted on 06/30/2011 6:19:37 PM PDT by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: nerdwithagun

+1000

TX is a slam dunk


4 posted on 06/30/2011 6:21:29 PM PDT by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Arrowhead1952; basil; lormand; wolfcreek; squarebarb; bgill

If they polled only Sheila Jackson Lee’s district.

This may be the biggest bullshit whopper out of a commie since... 1917.


5 posted on 06/30/2011 6:21:36 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish?)
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To: nerdwithagun

Texas is one place that recognizes Bovine Excrement when they see it. I think maybe they are seeing it from the Houston Chronicle.


6 posted on 06/30/2011 6:22:11 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Pollster1

That a bunch of BS, this is nothing more then political driving polls.


7 posted on 06/30/2011 6:22:26 PM PDT by dhuynh73 (Reagan Country)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My BS meter is ticking on this poll. No way Obama beats Perry in Texas.


8 posted on 06/30/2011 6:22:34 PM PDT by mtrott
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To: mtrott
No way Mr. Obama would beat any of those named, not even Milt. Barry will be lucky to carry Washington, DC and California.
9 posted on 06/30/2011 6:24:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Losertarians AKA wRONg PAUL aren’t Republicans.


10 posted on 06/30/2011 6:26:09 PM PDT by Drango (NO-vember is payback for April 15th)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ludicrous. There is more BS in this poll than they got in all of Texas.
11 posted on 06/30/2011 6:27:05 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only poll that really counts is the one on November 6, 2012. :-)


12 posted on 06/30/2011 6:27:47 PM PDT by Jeff Winston (Run, Sarah... Run, and win.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann leads in Texas, 47 percent to Obama’s 44 percent."


While I take any poll that has Obama beating Perry in Texas with a grain of salt, I found this interesting. One of the raps against Bachmann is that she is not electable.
13 posted on 06/30/2011 6:29:03 PM PDT by rob777
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To: rob777

With a margin of error of 3.5%, all those GOP candidates or potential candidates named are tied or beating him!!


14 posted on 06/30/2011 6:32:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: rob777

She isn’t, which makes this poll one of most laughable yet of all the crap being pushed around lately.


15 posted on 06/30/2011 6:33:47 PM PDT by curth (Sarah Palin: THE Genuine Article - Accept No Cheap Imitation)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ha!

Thanks for the laugh.


16 posted on 06/30/2011 6:34:14 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t think Obama could beat ANYBODY in TX.


17 posted on 06/30/2011 6:34:43 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Pelosi: Obamacare indulgences for sale.)
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To: Jeff Winston

“The only poll that really counts is the one on November 6, 2012. :-)”
Wrong. The primaries matter most.


18 posted on 06/30/2011 6:34:53 PM PDT by JustAnotherOne (Perry-Huntsman 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Down south we call that “a crock of sh**!!”


19 posted on 06/30/2011 6:37:59 PM PDT by allsouthern
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ROTFL!!! Obama couldn’t beat a wet noodle in Texas. Somebody been hittin’ the happy smoke again.


20 posted on 06/30/2011 6:39:50 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (When the going gets tough, the tough check themselves into "rehab".)
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To: Mike Darancette

“I don’t think Obama could beat ANYBODY in TX.”

Agreed. Chopped liver would beat him 2-1.


22 posted on 06/30/2011 6:43:26 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: nerdwithagun

Let’s see, Texas went to McCain and Palin in 2008. So now that they’ve had a good look at Obama’s accomplishments, they are so thrilled that they would prefer him over another Republican. Yep. I got it.


23 posted on 06/30/2011 6:48:15 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I understand that Texas is weathering the recession better than most states, but, seriously, who would attribute that to 0bama?

Maybe that's why they want 0bama -- so they can get what the other 49 states are losing.

24 posted on 06/30/2011 6:51:04 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is there no one running against Obambi in the Dem primary? Now that would make news.


25 posted on 06/30/2011 6:51:04 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: parksstp

Gotta love the bias at work here - “Hey Republicans - Mitt Romney is your best guy! Look - he does better than the incumbent Perry in Perry’s own state!” What a load.

The mainstream media continues to try to force RINOs down our throats, knowing darn well that they’ll savage ANY challenger to the Marxist Obama. Please give me a REAL alternative - we need the Reagan to Carter. I’m painfully aware that the stakes are WAY higher than back then. Four more years of Obamanomics is going to do me in.


26 posted on 06/30/2011 6:52:07 PM PDT by rockvillem
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is this poll printed on 2-ply or quilted?


27 posted on 06/30/2011 6:52:35 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: The Bronze Titan

The Houston Chronicle is no better than the Washington Compost or the NY Slimes. Down here we refer to it as the Houston Comical or the Houston Barnacle. No one takes it seriously and very few people take it anymore. The Houston Post was the “conservative” paper before it went out of business a long time ago.


28 posted on 06/30/2011 6:53:39 PM PDT by jsdjason
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To: bigbob

obammma can beat barney frank and both weiners in austin.


29 posted on 06/30/2011 6:54:47 PM PDT by shadeaud (" If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I doubt Obama would get more than 12% of the vote in Texas. Against anybody.


30 posted on 06/30/2011 6:56:15 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is bull crap. Im texan. I can assure you Obama wont even hit 40% please.....


31 posted on 06/30/2011 6:57:05 PM PDT by GoCards (RUN SARAH RUN)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The article immediately contradicts itself. Worthless.


32 posted on 06/30/2011 6:58:00 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
All the so-called "losers" are within the margin of error. Another misleading headline to hurt Gov. Palin and help Gov. Romney

Look, Vet, it is time to start concentrating on defeating Romney in the primaries and then defeating Obama in the general election. It is time to put the Sarah Palin fantasy to rest.

The most recent Fox News Poll just came out:

FOX News Polll .... For Release 6PM ET Wednesday, June 29, 2011

Among REPUBLICAN primary voters, the preferences are as follows:

Mitt Romney ..... 18%
Rick Perry ..... 13%
Michele Bachmann ..... 11%
Rudy Giuliani ..... 10%
Sarah Palin ..... 8%
Ron Paul ..... 7%
Herman Cain ..... 5%
Tim Pawlenty ..... 3%

Sarah Palin is in single digit territory. .... One percentage point above Ron Paul.

The only conservative that has a very good chance of beating Romney and then beating Obama is currently Governor Rick Perry. In electability, he is light-years ahead of Michelle Bachmann (no executive experience) with ten and a half years of experience as the Governor of the second most populous State in the Union.

Not only that, Sarah Palin "really likes" him:

MAY 31, 2011 .... Palin plugs Perry: "I really like him" .... Unprompted, Sarah Palin brought up Rick Perry's name yesterday as a strong presidential candidate. "I think he would be a fine candidate.... we have a lot in common. I really like him.

Governor Sarah Palin's Endorsement of Governor Rick Perry

"That's why I am supporting Governor Rick Perry for re-election. He does what is right regardless of whether it is popular. He walks the walk of a true conservative. And he sticks to his guns – and you know how I feel about guns!" ...... Sarah Palin, January 17, 2009

Sarah Palin seems to be very happy as a motivational speaker, with her books and with her entertainment projects with Bristol.

Sarah Palin shows no evidence of wanting to get back to political office:

"I'd rather be doing this than be in some stuffy old political office," ..... trailer for "Sarah Palin's Alaska"

It is time to start thinking beyond Sarah. Sarah is happy where she is.

The most conservative candidate out there that can actually beat Obama in November 2012 just happens to be the candidate that Sarah Palin "really likes".

33 posted on 06/30/2011 7:07:26 PM PDT by Polybius
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I don’t think Obama could beat ANYBODY in TX.

The poll is pure propaganda and is a certain lie.

Back during the last election, Barry's popularity was off the charts high as everyone, including the GOP campaign was gushing over how Messianic Barry was. This was when the GOP was running that utterly worthless DIABLO* Juan McCain.

AND BARRY LOST TO MCCAIN IN TEXAS

Barry is universally hated now, especially in Texas because Barry has deliberately sought out to economically devastate this State. Rick Perry easily won the primary over popular congresscritter Kay Bay and walked away with the election against a popular Democratic candidate even though most conservative Texans had to hold their nose while at the polling site.

*Democrat In All But Label Only

34 posted on 06/30/2011 7:10:29 PM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

WhatEVER. That’s some funny stuff right there.

It is the Houston Barnacle after all....have to consider the source.


35 posted on 06/30/2011 7:12:19 PM PDT by txmissy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If we have to rely on the margin of error to carry Texas with Perry and Palin we are in big trouble. That said, ANY poll now is absolutely meaningless.


36 posted on 06/30/2011 7:15:27 PM PDT by mighty atlas
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

PPP is the KOS Kool-Aid bunch so Kos is telling us who he and his friends want to run against.

Please tell me no one believes this poll.


37 posted on 06/30/2011 7:17:59 PM PDT by ATLDiver
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Texas is changing because of the massive influx of people from states like Illinois, California and Massachusetts in addition to the so called undocumented folk some of which turn legal or squeeze out a baby while here illegally. Texas is literally being over run by people looking for jobs or a lower cost alternative where they can actually afford a home, car, where you don't have bums on every corner etc......

Unfortunately, many of these people moving to Texas don't ever ask themselves “why” it's like that here in Texas and “why” their home state is so screwed up. Instead they embrace exactly those socioeconomic ideas that led to the demise of the place they came from. They're locusts and though politically incorrect to call them such in public, that is exactly what they are. That is what locusts do, eat the area dead and move on.

Actually Texas is turning more blue and it has to do with simple demographics. Texas will become a victim of her success!

38 posted on 06/30/2011 7:30:27 PM PDT by Red6
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To: mighty atlas

Don’t worry, we are not in danger of Texas choosing a second term of Obama over Palin or Perry.


39 posted on 06/30/2011 7:30:35 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL! This is the most desperate spin poll I’ve seen in a looong time. Obama winning Texas...LOL!!!


40 posted on 06/30/2011 7:32:24 PM PDT by DemforBush (Serpentine, Shel! Serpentine!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Lemme guess: They only polled black people in Texas...

... with criminal records.

... who only speak Spanish.

Yeah, that might helped that d1ck win Texas by the margin of error.

41 posted on 06/30/2011 7:32:38 PM PDT by jimjohn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
PPP is the official pollster for Kos and has close ties to the Democratic Party. Anyone who believes anything they say is a fool.

Pollsters may be the only profession that is more dishonest than journalists. Tell them what result you want and they will create a sampling and word the questions in a way to give the result the client wants.

42 posted on 06/30/2011 7:36:03 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: ATLDiver

No one believes this poll. Perry just beat Bill White last November and White is far more reasonable and acceptable than Obama.


43 posted on 06/30/2011 7:37:50 PM PDT by Anima Mundi (If you try to fail and you succeed , what have you just done?)
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To: Venturer
The Houston Comical shovels out bovine excrement every day, this is just today's load.
44 posted on 06/30/2011 7:37:52 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: ATLDiver

No one believes this poll. Perry just beat Bill White last November and White is far more reasonable and acceptable than Obama.


45 posted on 06/30/2011 7:38:26 PM PDT by Anima Mundi (If you try to fail and you succeed , what have you just done?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
LOL. My dog could beat him in Texas.

And I don't have a dog..........

46 posted on 06/30/2011 7:42:12 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You do realize that this is the commiecrat rag out of Houston and is about as relevant to Texas votes as a piss ant mound....lol


47 posted on 06/30/2011 7:44:22 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: nerdwithagun

Agreed!

Beware, fraudsters will be dealt with to the fullest extinct.

Don’t mess with Texas!


48 posted on 06/30/2011 7:49:16 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.. VOTE out the RATS!)
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To: Polybius

Yep, I doubt that Sarah is committing to the run.

She’s good at what she’s doing right now and the senate might
be the place to go first. But if she does run I’m there for her...and Perry.

I’m already wondering who will take Perry’s place as governor.


49 posted on 06/30/2011 7:55:10 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.. VOTE out the RATS!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You are about to be Romneytized by the GOP. How bout that Ron Paul. I think we need to get a radical in the Executive Branch. The normal nomination process compromises any Republican candidate.


50 posted on 06/30/2011 7:57:04 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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