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What does it mean? Sarah Palin changes Facebook profile from 'Republican' to 'Conservative'
The London Daily Mail ^ | October 15, 2011 | Staff

Posted on 10/15/2011 1:21:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

She has always been known as a Tea Party darling as well as a staunch Republican.

But now Sarah Palin has nailed her political colours to the mast and changed her Facebook profile from Republican to 'Conservative'.

The move on the 'political views' section of her page has left political commentators struggling to decipher what the the former Alaska governor is trying to say.

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One long-time blogger and Palin supporter wrote: 'I suppose one could draw a multitude of conclusions regarding this status change.

'I know that I certainly have. You can be certain that any move Sarah Palin makes has been well thought out and is with purpose.

'Could she possibly be sending a message to the RNC that they need to strengthen the conservative planks of the Republican party.

'Perhaps her promise of 'sudden and relentless reform' as addressed in her Indianola speech and more recently in her October 7th St. Louis speech is a sign that as in the past, neither party is safe from her scrunity.

'One thing is for sure, time will tell.'

The news comes as polls continued to indicate that Republicans aren’t sold on Mitt Romney and they’ve been looking for other presidential candidates.

At least eight other Republicans have seen their standings soar in GOP primary surveys since the beginning of the year.....

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Alaska; Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2012; palin; romney; sarahpalin
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

No, it means you haven’t read the thread. “GrandJediMasterYoda” (LOL!) NOTHING HAS CHANGED on her page, they printed a retraction of the story.


51 posted on 10/15/2011 3:27:40 PM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It means she’s disappointed in the RINOs just like the rest of us.


52 posted on 10/15/2011 3:38:37 PM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: Montanabound; 2ndDivisionVet

I did the same thing two years ago, and for the same reasons.


53 posted on 10/15/2011 3:52:37 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: Springfield Reformer

There’s a big apology for writing this from some blog. Her organization says she has always been listed as a conservative.


54 posted on 10/15/2011 3:59:20 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Politics4US
Those people are elected.

Oh, I guess then Frum doesn't matterf (actually, he doesn't), nor Trotter, nor Krauthammer, nor Parker, nor etc. etc. etc. of all the unelected punditry whose opinions count no more, and often much less, than those of Palin, who still appears to have a huge following.

I don't doubt that her influence will decline if she's not in the hunt, but your "she doesn't matter" I expect is mostly wishful thinking. I'm looking forward to your wishes being dashed.

55 posted on 10/15/2011 4:08:22 PM PDT by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man.)
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To: Spartan79

I was a supporter of hers until she announced that she wasn’t running for president. She milked it until the end.


56 posted on 10/15/2011 4:12:55 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I want her to do or be or say ANYTHING she wants. She’s earned it.
In her honor, I’ve removed her name from my tagline. She clearly has bigger things left to do.


57 posted on 10/15/2011 4:21:13 PM PDT by FryingPan101 (Perry/)
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To: Rapscallion

Liberal and RINO repubs make it possible. A third-party run guarantees it. But I don`t have to convince you of that... you already know it.


58 posted on 10/15/2011 4:35:36 PM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: freekitty

Oh. In my best Rosanne Rosannadana voice, “Never mind ...” :)


59 posted on 10/15/2011 4:35:43 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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60 posted on 10/15/2011 4:38:08 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: All

http://conservatives4palin.com/2011/10/update-palins-facebook-political-views-have-always-been-listed-as-conservative.html

When one is attacked, we’re all attacked.

We all hang together or we all hang seperately.

-—Ben Franklin

CAIN 2012


61 posted on 10/15/2011 5:00:33 PM PDT by Kolath
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To: Politics4US
I was a supporter of hers until ...

BS. If you supported her, it means you wanted someone like her to be president. If you wanted her to be president, you must have believed in her capacity to make good decisions. Yet now, when she makes a decision you don't like, you throw her so far under the bus you accuse her of being this fundamentally evil person, just in it to milk supporters, despite strong evidence to the contrary. Rather a sudden and dramatic transformation from the person whose decisions you say you trusted well enough to be President.

So really you never did support her. What you supported was an idea in your own head you held about her, but you didn't support her, as herself. You may have even given time and money to that idea in your head, but it wasn't really for her. Projections are always so disappointing, aren't they. But you can't elect a projection to office. You have to elect real people. Sarah was never dishonest with us. She made her choice. It's not fair to respond to your personal disappointment by sliding into bitterness and slandering her with falsehoods about her motivation, and it doesn't help the conservative movement either.

62 posted on 10/15/2011 5:01:58 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer

People like you aren’t going to get people to like Palin. I didn’t know that she was milking it, until she announced that she wasn’t running. I trusted her decisions to be president before I realized she took advantage of her supporters. She misled her supporters. If people didn’t think she was running, why didn’t she announce in Iowa that she wasn’t going to run? Why did she have them wait another month? In her Iowa speech she attacked advisers on Fox News who were working with candidates, because they didn’t announce that. She had a bus tour. She changed foreign policy advisers. What was the point of “the Undefeated?” People wouldn’t have purchased the dvd or go to see in at the movies if they knew she wasn’t running. Palin took advantage of people thinking she was running for president, and that is why she waited until the very end to announce.


63 posted on 10/15/2011 5:55:27 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m all for dumping the Republican party. I will not vote for a RINO. Period.


64 posted on 10/15/2011 6:05:27 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: Politics4US
People like you aren’t going to get people to like Palin

I don't know about that. I've been pretty successful getting people to like her, because unlike you, all I really have to do is let them get to know the real her.

Now help me out here. I'm pretty good with grammar & such, but I cannot tell the tail from the nose in this next line of yours:

If people didn’t think she was running, why didn’t she announce in Iowa that she wasn’t going to run?

You’ve got a triple negative going there, and I have no idea what you are trying to say. My best guess is that you think she was laying down heavy evidence she intended to run. And if that is your point, guess what? I agree with you. That’s the message we all were getting from her.

But here’s your problem. You go further than the evidence. Much further. You look into the secret places of her very soul and claim to see what none of us mere mortals can see, that she didn’t really mean it, that she was just playing games with us. And at that point you cross over from mere speculation into slander.

Yes, it's a slander, because you've got no more evidence for your allegations than McGinniss had for his. I'm serious. You rattle off a series of facts showing she was giving real signs of running, and I agree with you that those were indicators of a serious intent to run. But you go off the tracks into McGinnissville because you utterly fail to show even the tiniest shred of evidence that during that period she knew, with certainty, she would not run. Got pictures? No. Got emails? No. Got credible testimony from anyone in a position to know her innermost thoughts? Um, No. Maybe a special revelation from on high? Didn’t think so.

So you have no evidence for your belief she never really meant to run. Zip. Zero. Nada. And when you make an accusation that assaults the character of someone, with no supporting evidence, you have become a slanderer. Thems just the plain facts. It doesn't matter to me if you don't like me for saying it. Just strikes me as out of character for someone with your namesake to be defaming a fellow conservative with no cause whatsoever. Slander is no friend of conservatism.

Look, what prevents you from just giving her the benefit of the doubt? She obviously was acting like someone who meant to run. We both agree on that. But as neither you nor I have any evidence she meant otherwise, what is so hard about just believing her own testimony, that coming down to the wire, there were genuine, sincere reasons she could not take that last step, a step she very much wanted to take? Have you never been there before, where you really meant to do something, but when it came the time and place to do it, things weren't as you had originally believed, and you had to back off?

I've been there many times. That's perhaps why I was not so shocked when she finally made her decision October 5th. I was listening to her very closely, and she was measuring her words very carefully, like I myself would do when my children wanted something very badly, but I was unsure myself whether I could make it happen. I would try to keep their hope alive, with a serious hope of my own it would work out, yet never making a promise that I might later have to break. Sarah is like that. She cares about her promises. She hates to break them, and she's lived a life that proves that about her. It is one of the main reason I liked, and still like, who she really is.

But apparently some of us didn't get the memo. You do know she gave up about 10 million in potential income to keep herself available for the race, don't you? Yep, she was offered a second season with her Alaska show, and turned it down. That really doesn't sound like someone who's "milking it," now does it. That sounds like someone who totally believed she was going to run. That's what the on-the-record evidence suggests, and you have as much as admitted it. Why you want to take your bitterness out on her, and now on me, is between you and God, but it doesn't help the movement. Just something to think about.

65 posted on 10/15/2011 7:19:03 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: bobk333

I am disappointed she didn’t change it to “Tea Party.”


And maybe we should all be disappointed the Tea Party hasn’t incorporated as a full-fledged political party that offers slates of candidates at local, state and national level.

Sarah Palin isn’t registered with the Tea Party for the same reason the rest of us aren’t.


66 posted on 10/15/2011 8:24:39 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Rapscallion; ScottinVA

As unpopular as Obama is, the Republican party remains quite unpopular as well. I believe in a three-way race, it is quite possible for Palin to win. Her message would appeal to many in both parties, including the independents. Running against the “establishment elites” is a winning strategy.


67 posted on 10/15/2011 9:07:20 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: Springfield Reformer

LOL


68 posted on 10/15/2011 9:16:23 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Springfield Reformer

If people didn’t think she was running, why didn’t she announce in Iowa that she wasn’t going to run?

“You’ve got a triple negative going there, and I have no idea what you are trying to say. My best guess is that you think she was laying down heavy evidence she intended to run. And if that is your point, guess what? I agree with you. That’s the message we all were getting from her.”

I was saying that people said that I should have known she wasn’t running or also Palin didn’t lead me to think she was running for president. If that is true, why couldn’t she have said it in September that she wasn’t running.

“Why you want to take your bitterness out on her, and now on me, is between you and God, but it doesn’t help the movement. Just something to think about.”

You have been attacking me. I haven’t slandered her like Joe McGinniss has. I’ve given a description of how she handled herself the past year. I know you wrote a lot, and I read it. There’s a lot of evidence that she milked it, and I feel that she hurt the candidates in the primary by not announcing sooner.


69 posted on 10/15/2011 11:16:22 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nothing.


70 posted on 10/15/2011 11:47:27 PM PDT by gingerales
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To: upsdriver

You can spin this any way to Sunday, but there is no way Palin is going to win a three-way race. Her message resonates with much of the conservative base, but little beyond that. The support she`ll pull..likely in the 20% range... will come directly from a split in the GOP vote and give Obama not only a win but a landslide.

Obama is going to be very difficult to take down next year, regardless of the current lumps he`s taking in job approval polls now. The possibility of beating him and averting four more miserable years of this disaster must not be squandered by an exercise in clear futility.


71 posted on 10/16/2011 3:44:51 AM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: upsdriver

You can spin this any way to Sunday, but there is no way Palin is going to win a three-way race. Her message resonates with much of the conservative base, but little beyond that. The support she`ll pull..likely in the 20% range... will come directly from a split in the GOP vote and give Obama not only a win but a landslide.

Obama is going to be very difficult to take down next year, regardless of the current lumps he`s taking in job approval polls now. The possibility of beating him and averting four more miserable years of this disaster must not be squandered by an exercise in clear futility.


72 posted on 10/16/2011 3:45:00 AM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

So, if you stay home if Romney is the nominee, you`ll have been successfully demoralized, just as the Left hopes. You`re really OK with Obama making a SCOTUS selection in his next term, knowing full well it may affect the court`s conservative wing?


73 posted on 10/16/2011 3:55:22 AM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: Politics4US
I was saying that people said that I should have known she wasn’t running or also Palin didn’t lead me to think she was running for president. If that is true, why couldn’t she have said it in September that she wasn’t running.

So if I’m getting what you’re saying, you’re making this harder than it should be because other people are telling you that you should have known better than to believe her because she didn’t give clues she was running. But as we have already agreed, Palin did give many substantial clues she was running. I can’t argue with the people who were arguing with you, because right now, this is just between you and me. But I think the simple, honest answer is that yes, she really was running, in her own mind, right up till the last minute. That’s why the clues were there. They were telling us what she was really thinking. She really meant to run.

You have been attacking me. I haven’t slandered her like Joe McGinniss has. I’ve given a description of how she handled herself the past year.

I am sorry you think I am attacking you, but I will defend the honor and good character of Sarah Palin against all comers, whether from outside the camp of the conservative faithful or from within. She did nothing, repeat, nothing to deserve this kind of treatment. If you perceive it as an attack on you, I suggest you adjust your antennae, because you are getting the wrong signal.

Try to understand something. I have a particular sensitivity to slander. Some years ago, I had a debate with a neighbor about their garbage dumpster and the junk it was routinely spewing into my yard. The conflict escalated to where they began to slander me in the most horrendous way possible, heart-sickening, McGinniss-class rumors, totally without basis in fact. I didn’t pursue it in court, because I am by nature a turn-the-other-cheek guy, and I felt the matter would dissipate more efficiently if I just focused on winning the battle over the dumpster, which, by God’s grace, I did. But it definitely gave me some insight to what it is like to enter the unreal world of people making up the most amazing nonsense about you, simply because they are trying to get a tactical advantage over you.

So when people make things up about Sarah that denigrate her character, I demand strict proof of the charges. Your description of her behavior over the last year contains nothing that proves she meant to mislead. Nothing at all. I know all the alleged “proofs” on your list, and many more, as I have engaged many others who have similarly slandered Palin right here on FR. Of all the allegations made, there is no actual proof, only speculation and innuendo, the unjustified drawing of reputation-damaging inferences from a thin and sometimes non-existent set of facts.

Bottom line, unless you are God, you don’t know and can’t know she was misleading anyone. There are no secret recordings, no pictures or videos of her meeting with the enemy, no emails where she’s snickering about fooling those idiot supporters of hers. There is no real evidence of your allegation. None. And as your allegation is both defamatory of her character, and made without evidence, it is identical to the McGinniss slanders.

So, while I intend no personal attack on you, I will call it as I see it. You are putting out an explanation of why she decided not to run that relies on an unproven and defamatory theory of her character. That’s bad of you to do. It just is. It hurts her, and it hurts the conservative movement, for no good reason, and I will continue to call it out whenever I see it happen. It’s nothing personal. It’s just something I can’t not do. I hope you understand.

74 posted on 10/16/2011 7:02:14 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sarah Palin changes Facebook profile from 'Republican' to 'Conservative'

Change is afoot.

When will FreeRepublic change its sidebar key words from palin and sarahpalin to cain and hermancain?

75 posted on 10/16/2011 9:33:18 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“She changes **one** word on her Facebook page and it’s international news? “


Hey it’s the meaning of that one word that is the news.

Hope it means she is going to set up a conservative shop on the Third Ave. I know she would not have zilch of a chance with the two wings of the same bird of prey controlling the ‘debates’. Have to get started sometime. Losing the first time is not the worse thing, losing every time is.


76 posted on 10/16/2011 9:43:03 AM PDT by ex-snook ("above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: ScottinVA

theres a price to pay. the Northeastern culturaly liberal elite Republicans need some kind of punishment for the way they treat regular working people.


77 posted on 10/16/2011 11:02:23 AM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: FreeReign
Change is afoot.

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78 posted on 10/16/2011 12:15:42 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Foot stomp to be followed by a noticeably flatulent “splat” sound.


79 posted on 10/16/2011 12:24:16 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

The “punishment” that needs to be meted out is to Obama. But, hey... why should the Republicans alter their penchant for circular firing squads? It`s certainly fun entertainment for the enemy party.


80 posted on 10/16/2011 2:45:24 PM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: ScottinVA

If there were a Lee Atwater type in the Republican Party now, Mitt Romney wouldnt have over 10% in the polls right now and he would be on tv every day trying to explain why he was trying to out liberal than Teddy Kennedy when he was running for gov. Even Jay Leno has made jokes about that.

We need leaders who fight back against the elite people who think they are so much better than us. Romney is a part of the problem.


81 posted on 10/16/2011 3:04:00 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: ScottinVA

If more than 1% of the Republican party is like you, I don’t want to be a Republican anymore. You are happy to throw people like Palin under the bus while you are willing to give Mitt Romney a..(explicit act that you will know on the first guess)


82 posted on 10/16/2011 3:09:11 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative; ScottinVA

I’m no fan of the sit-it-out-for-Romney school of thought, but SOYC makes a valuable point. Romney has had his fingers in a number of very bad things that have happened to the GOP. It has been argued on this forum that it was his people inside the McCain campaign who sabotaged Sarah in 2008, possibly costing us the election. It is further arguable through the emerging Romneycare-Obamacare connection that he is every bit the anti-constitutional statist that Obama is, if not quite fully Marxist.

Thus, his greatest weakness going into the general is that both parties will be confronted with a choice where the philosophical differences between the two candidates are so weak the race will dissolve into identity politics, in which case we will lose one of the most winnable presidential elections in GOP history, to an open Marxist.

Furthermore, I have interned at a constitutional law firm where I learned first hand how heavy handed he can be in implementing his statism.

So, in my mind, should he win, he might actually be worse for us than Obama. That is not intended as jump-the-shark rhetoric. That’s a real impression that has been growing in my mind, especially as I see how he is attempting to game the primary system at a deep level to guarantee his nomination, at a time when he knows the will of the people is beginning to run against him. In that I see the same spirit that governs Obama, the spirit of the would-be tyrant, the impulse to power, no matter who he has to run over to get there. If Romney actually does become the GOP nominee, the game is changed significantly for the worse, and I do not yet know what I will do.


83 posted on 10/16/2011 4:21:05 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

I`m trying to discern the part in which you conclude I`m throwing Sarah under the bus. MY COMMENT WAS THAT i didn`t believe she had a chance to win, not that Ibwas casting her aside. One can be supportive of a person`s ideology and at the same time realistic about their electoral chances.


84 posted on 10/16/2011 6:42:39 PM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: Politics4US
Palin doesn’t matter now if she’s not running for president.

Neither do you....dumb one.

85 posted on 10/17/2011 2:13:13 AM PDT by Rapscallion (DO NOT RESPOND TO RUMORS. Your freedom may depend on it.)
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To: nascarnation

That’s kind of how I see it. But. With a Romney/Obama contest I would have to vote for a conservative other if I were to vote at all. Romney is not and will not be the “lesser of two evils.” I will not vote for a Democrat or a pro-abort even if the Republican Party is running him.


86 posted on 10/17/2011 5:48:12 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: Rapscallion

Yes, I do, because I was one of her supporters.


87 posted on 10/17/2011 8:55:45 AM PDT by Politics4US
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

Seriously, the notion of comparing Sarah Palin to Ronald Reagan in any substantive way:

A two-term governor of California
vs.
a portion-of-one-term governor of Alaska

Someone who was determined to get rid of the Soviet Union in Eastern Europe — and who did get rid of the Soviets in Eastern Europe and got Germany to “tear down this wall” and to “open that gate.”
vs.
Someone who knows where Russia is located

Someone who was firm in his view that taxes needed to be cut dramatically — and did cut them, leading to a boom that essentially began in 1982 and — with the exception of the recessionary hiccups of 1991 and 2001 — continued unabated until about 2008
vs.
Someone who raised taxes on an American industry, the oil sector in Alaska

Someone who restored American pride at home and this nation’s leadership worldwide at a time of great danger to our republic
vs.
Someone who talks about crony capitalism — whatever the heck that really means.

Someone who was clear-headed in his belief that he needed to serve his country by attempting — and succeeding — in becoming president of the USA
vs.
Someone who changed her Facebook profile

Reagan wasn’t perfect, although he was a great president and deserves to be on Mt. Rushmore and on the currency.

But side by side as if they are comparable? Seriously ? Really ?

-George


88 posted on 10/18/2011 8:27:43 AM PDT by Calif Conservative (rwr and gwb backer)
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